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Downtown Hound

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20. Bullshit. The same factors ARE NOT IN PLAY.

Fri Jan 18, 2019, 04:28 PM

Jan 2019

People do not join gangs for the sole purpose of they hate other races. That may or may not be a part of the gang they join, but it is not their sole reason for joining. The Crips were not formed to oppress white people. The Klan was formed with the sole purpose of oppressing black people. That is a distinct difference, and it matters.

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This filmmaker spent months interviewing neo-Nazis and jihadists. Here's what she learned. [View all] ProudLib72 Jan 2019 OP

Great read. allgood33 Jan 2019 #1

Yes, I do too ProudLib72 Jan 2019 #11

Although I applaud her and think what she's saying has great merit Downtown Hound Jan 2019 #2

Discussing the factors that can lead people to extremism isn't excusing it. Caliman73 Jan 2019 #6

Sorry, but it IS weakness Downtown Hound Jan 2019 #7

No, but a lot of them had it ingrained in them from that time... cynatnite Jan 2019 #8

It might be difficult but it's not impossible Downtown Hound Jan 2019 #10

It's not a choice for them like you think it is... cynatnite Jan 2019 #12

Just because it's hard doesn't mean it's not a choice Downtown Hound Jan 2019 #13

It's not absolving them... cynatnite Jan 2019 #14

By all means, try and help them Downtown Hound Jan 2019 #17

That's like saying, "why bother to help anyone"... cynatnite Jan 2019 #28

Um, no, you totally misunderstood what I was saying Downtown Hound Jan 2019 #32

So are you saying that people who join gangs or commit other crimes are weak? Caliman73 Jan 2019 #16

Apples to oranges Downtown Hound Jan 2019 #18

No. They join because they are desperate, isolated, and feel their options are limited. Caliman73 Jan 2019 #19

Bullshit. The same factors ARE NOT IN PLAY. Downtown Hound Jan 2019 #20

At a human level they are. Your anger seems to be blinding you. Caliman73 Jan 2019 #21

You really think that everybody who becomes a racist does so because they're scared and need Downtown Hound Jan 2019 #33

K&R for visibility. nt tblue37 Jan 2019 #3

K&R smirkymonkey Jan 2019 #4

I like to think that her approach offers some hope for society ProudLib72 Jan 2019 #9

Oh, I agree. I did think it was hopeful. I think my post might have come off the wrong way. smirkymonkey Jan 2019 #15

decades of agenda driven corporate propaganda 90-percent Jan 2019 #5

☝ Duppers Jan 2019 #23

VOX does some great reporting. mysteryowl Jan 2019 #22

K & R Duppers Jan 2019 #24

I read an article about the psychology of hate groups and tRump's base. BigmanPigman Jan 2019 #25

They are both ideologically based hate groups, so it's no surprise ProudLib72 Jan 2019 #34

K&R Kurt V. Jan 2019 #26

Summary: it's mostly men, and they're doing it to feel important. Oy. SunSeeker Jan 2019 #27

Feeling wanted and important and being listened to is a powerful human urge. Blue_true Jan 2019 #30

Testosterone is definitely part of the mix. BigmanPigman Jan 2019 #35

Basic Dale Carnegie GeoWilliam750 Jan 2019 #37

Whatever happened to "the meek shall inherit the earth"? SunSeeker Jan 2019 #39

After reading that, I sort of want to go have a conversation with a MAGAT. Blue_true Jan 2019 #29

"Basic needs not being met" makes it easier to recruit people into any extremist ideology IronLionZion Jan 2019 #31

KKK Conservative boasting: "We killed six million Jews the last time," he answered. "Eleven millio keithbvadu2 Jan 2019 #36

Excellent piece GeoWilliam750 Jan 2019 #38