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DeminPennswoods

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15. Josh Marshall culls the wheat from the chaff
Sun Jan 20, 2019, 08:26 PM
Jan 2019

Again, whether and how he lied about it is legally interesting. But that’s the cover-up rather than the thing itself. That deal was with sanctioned individuals and sanctioned banks. Whether it was even legal to be entering into the negotiations is not clear to me. But certainly the post-2014 sanctions against Russia had to be lifted before the deal could be finalized. That is the central issue. It’s not simply that Trump had “business” with Russia and deceived the public about it during the campaign and after. It’s more specific and direct. Why was Trump so solicitous of Russia and Vladimir Putin during the campaign? Well, a lot of possible reasons. But a major and likely the major reason was because Putin was dangling a multi-hundreds of millions of dollars payday in front of him. That’s a big incentive, especially for Donald Trump.

To get that money, Trump had to court Putin and he’d eventually need to lift sanctions against him.


https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/the-hotel-deal-is-really-all-that-matters
Buzzfeed Double-Down! [View all] Towlie Jan 2019 OP
It's a huge bet PJMcK Jan 2019 #1
Can you briefly synopsize this news? Cracklin Charlie Jan 2019 #3
BuzzFeed reported that Mueller had evidence that Trump suborned perjury PJMcK Jan 2019 #4
Leopold seems to have quite a few lives in him. Cuthbert Allgood Jan 2019 #14
While I really want their allegations to be validated, procon Jan 2019 #2
I'm with you. cwydro Jan 2019 #10
It's easy to criticize anonymous sources, but they're really more credible than they might seem. Towlie Jan 2019 #17
The question I have with this is whether Trump's lawyers or associates, have fed this to Buzzfeed to OnDoutside Jan 2019 #5
Oh come now, I don't don't think they are fools. triron Jan 2019 #7
I'm not saying they are, but if they are presented with a story that Trump told Cohen to lie, and OnDoutside Jan 2019 #9
I still think it's possible Don Jr told Cohen to lie, that's what SCO says isn't accurate. CaptainTruth Jan 2019 #6
Damn, this is intriguing! triron Jan 2019 #8
Do we believe Jason Leopold or Mueller? Bonx Jan 2019 #11
They aren't mutually exclusive. Towlie Jan 2019 #12
Appears that way. triron Jan 2019 #13
Josh Marshall culls the wheat from the chaff DeminPennswoods Jan 2019 #15
Makes sense. Great post. Trump is screwed so many ways. Pepsidog Jan 2019 #18
TBD. He could still wriggle out of the trap and get re-elected. maxsolomon Jan 2019 #24
True. Though I doubt he can take Pa. Mi and Wis again. Pepsidog Jan 2019 #25
As they say in Yiddish: maxsolomon Jan 2019 #26
Doubt he took them before. Will always believe they cheated. chimpymustgo Jan 2019 #30
I wish I would have said that. After 2000 Bush v Gore all the Pepsidog Jan 2019 #31
Listening to MSNBC just now they were on a discreditation attack triron Jan 2019 #16
Watergate era attacks on the messenger (WAPO) looked much the same. Ford_Prefect Jan 2019 #19
Sometimes I don't feel good about Carol Loennig. She almost labeled them "fake news". triron Jan 2019 #20
The reporters who were all scooped by Buzzfeed DeminPennswoods Jan 2019 #21
knr triron Jan 2019 #22
kick for visibility triron Jan 2019 #23
I wonder if it is something Mueller just doesn't want out right now. redstatebluegirl Jan 2019 #27
You say it's a double down bet matt819 Jan 2019 #28
I bet its true! Who knows what Mueller was up to, but time will tell. Joe941 Jan 2019 #29
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