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Apollyonus

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156. I don't like this thread at all

Mon Jan 21, 2019, 08:36 PM

Jan 2019

It attacks all the experienced and seasoned democrats with a broad brush as though they are all "corporate", old and rich. It also suggests that looking after constituents' wishes is mutually exclusive with looking after the interests of the democratic party.

No congressman, freshman or old, can accomplish ANYTHING without building a consensus and one will never build a consensus by attacking your own party on twitter day-in-day-out.

We cannot blow up the party and expect a better result. That is a Republican dream -- to cause a civil war between democrats.

Threads like these may feel good with that "all hail the queen" type feeling but we MUST support our party first. Especially if one uses DCCC's resources, mailing lists and GOTV support.

This thread makes me sad ... as though the republicans are winning by dividing and conquering.

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OMG this is perfect - The Onion nails the AOC phenomenon [View all] ProfessorPlum Jan 2019 OP

Nail. Hammer. Head. Mr. Quackers Jan 2019 #1

The Onion was sold to Univision, they tried to monotize writers & most of their original staff quit. TheBlackAdder Jan 2019 #72

I have no idea what your point is hueymahl Jan 2019 #136

The Onion is only The Onion in name only. It's not the same writers, and have different motivations. TheBlackAdder Jan 2019 #141

It's a spooky tale you are spinning ProfessorPlum Jan 2019 #144

Yep. TheBlackAdder Jan 2019 #147

Univision acquired a 40% stake three years ago. onenote Jan 2019 #152

From what I am told, over the past year. TheBlackAdder Jan 2019 #153

Well, this certainly explains the RW bent to these unfunny lies. R B Garr Jan 2019 #167

+1 betsuni Jan 2019 #173

So they don't want to make us laugh the same way? Cary Jan 2019 #165

couldn't have said it better.nt luvallpeeps Jan 2019 #179

So that's what happened. betsuni Jan 2019 #148

So the Onion stopped being funny three years ago? onenote Jan 2019 #155

I didn't say that. betsuni Jan 2019 #172

Ditto! Nail, Meet Hammer! (n/t) corbettkroehler Jan 2019 #190

Perfect malaise Jan 2019 #2

LOVE IT!! InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2019 #3

Straw man dansolo Jan 2019 #4

boo hoo ProfessorPlum Jan 2019 #5

Bingo!! Ferrets are Cool Jan 2019 #20

Seconding that Bingo! Messaging!!! calimary Jan 2019 #87

Thirding. This is absolutely critical for us to strengthen. JudyM Jan 2019 #154

Pithy - YETH! AOC is full of pith lagomorph777 Jan 2019 #159

Ha, she does, and it's great that our party is rallying together to pith off tRump and McConnell. JudyM Jan 2019 #160

thank you! Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2019 #29

Really? Every Democrat in the house and senate has "messaged" to accomplish. ... George II Jan 2019 #31

Right on!! Kerp it up ladies. We have enough business as usual people in the government. Left-over Jan 2019 #61

Yeah the message is the media. PatrickforO Jan 2019 #76

+1000 smirkymonkey Jan 2019 #99

balance qazplm135 Jan 2019 #103

That is a huge, valid point. n/t Beartracks Jan 2019 #171

Exactly! mountain grammy Jan 2019 #183

Straw man Tom Rinaldo Jan 2019 #6

Good points, Rinaldo! zentrum Jan 2019 #8

We need more tan a dozen. Texin Jan 2019 #25

Nice slip in your title. "Tan" mjvpi Jan 2019 #134

Motion carried to the floor, and I'll project passed with flying colors JackInGreen Jan 2019 #184

Did they move the election to 2021? George II Jan 2019 #33

Nope, my bad. Keen eye. Tom Rinaldo Jan 2019 #42

I know, just trying to lighten up the conversation. George II Jan 2019 #113

Yes, and the "list of demands" seem to be from Justice Democrats, R B Garr Jan 2019 #13

It would seem you think JackInGreen Jan 2019 #15

Are you one of her constituents? HopeAgain Jan 2019 #34

They voted for a freshman. nt R B Garr Jan 2019 #41

Because they wanted change HopeAgain Jan 2019 #43

lol R B Garr Jan 2019 #46

. HopeAgain Jan 2019 #49

My exact reaction about satire portraying AOC as a victim R B Garr Jan 2019 #50

I certainly don't see AOC as a "victim" HopeAgain Jan 2019 #52

Right. She is not a victim of House Democrats. nt R B Garr Jan 2019 #55

Never said she was...said she seemed to be representing her constituents HopeAgain Jan 2019 #57

No, you gave your personal observations that she wasn't a victim, R B Garr Jan 2019 #58

fine HopeAgain Jan 2019 #63

"behaves far from that of a victim". Really? George II Jan 2019 #83

Really HopeAgain Jan 2019 #85

I don't think the change they're seeing is what they thought they were getting. George II Jan 2019 #82

From where do you get that conclusion? HopeAgain Jan 2019 #86

Among others, from Democrats in the 14th District. George II Jan 2019 #88

Stories abound about their dissappointment HopeAgain Jan 2019 #92

Mine aren't blind heresay. George II Jan 2019 #102

Is this based on data or anecdotes? progressoid Jan 2019 #125

What do you consider anecdotes? I grew up in that area of Queens (after moving from Brooklyn).... George II Jan 2019 #126

Yes, that fits the definition of anecdotal. progressoid Jan 2019 #132

So we're talking about people HopeAgain Jan 2019 #135

Didn't you know melman Jan 2019 #150

An organized person mgardener Jan 2019 #17

That old "walk and chew gum" thing, y'know Tarc Jan 2019 #23

I was delighted by her - until I grew uncomfortable. Chemisse Jan 2019 #146

Love, love, love it. zentrum Jan 2019 #7

The Onion is actually a more reliable news source than FAUX News. llmart Jan 2019 #9

I can't wait for her to break down the fundraising. theaocp Jan 2019 #10

Oh, that is gonna be when ppl really disillusioned73 Jan 2019 #59

Perfection. TNNurse Jan 2019 #11

Millennials don't know anything IronLionZion Jan 2019 #12

AOC is great at messaging, which is necessary, but freshman can get legislation passed: Cairycat Jan 2019 #14

Thanks for posting this FakeNoose Jan 2019 #62

This is "perfect"? The Polack MSgt Jan 2019 #16

by all means, let's not criticize groveling to corporate donors ProfessorPlum Jan 2019 #19

You do realize, of course, that NO member of Congress can accept donations from corporations, right? George II Jan 2019 #38

You do realize angrychair Jan 2019 #112

At what point should we just start to shoot old Democrats as the running dogs of capaitalism The Polack MSgt Jan 2019 #70

your mileage may vary concerning the definition of corrupt ProfessorPlum Jan 2019 #78

Won't you please tell us which Democrats aren't "pushing for the will of the people betsuni Jan 2019 #178

I'm with you on this one Sarg ... this is kinda bullshit. mr_lebowski Jan 2019 #90

I don't think it would have been posted - Because Nancy Pelosi was bashed so much The Polack MSgt Jan 2019 #94

to be fair, Hoyer has played a special kind of role in the party ProfessorPlum Jan 2019 #97

To be fair populist Democrats in the primaries are trying to defeat Democrats in office The Polack MSgt Jan 2019 #111

agreed - in a way this is not surprising ProfessorPlum Jan 2019 #115

This onion piece is fiercely anti-Democratic Party The Polack MSgt Jan 2019 #119

yes, the Democratic party is the enemy ProfessorPlum Jan 2019 #133

This board had to establish a protected Barack Obama group The Polack MSgt Jan 2019 #151

I generally like the Onion, a lot, but this is way too virulently anti-Democrat for me to enjoy mr_lebowski Jan 2019 #100

heaven forfend that people should enjoy ProfessorPlum Jan 2019 #105

You say that as if you think I don't like 'good Democratic Messaging' ... you'd be wrong. mr_lebowski Jan 2019 #108

ProfessorPlum's Primer on Democratic Messaging. Part 1 The Polack MSgt Jan 2019 #114

this is the kind of thing I'm talking about ProfessorPlum Jan 2019 #96

Don't care, this is too anti-Democrat for me to enjoy the Onion's 'humor' in this case mr_lebowski Jan 2019 #101

ok, via con dios ProfessorPlum Jan 2019 #104

If they'd left the Corporation stuff, and Hoyer's name out, I'd have been okay with it ... mr_lebowski Jan 2019 #107

K&R your post, MSgt! sheshe2 Jan 2019 #149

+1 betsuni Jan 2019 #162

What House Democrats "grovel to corporate donors"? betsuni Jan 2019 #176

It was in response to this article ejbr Jan 2019 #21

Interestingly, the word "corporate' does not appear in that article ProfessorPlum Jan 2019 #32

What does "corporate" have to do with it? George II Jan 2019 #39

Link doesn't work n/t VWolf Jan 2019 #22

take off the trailing period ProfessorPlum Jan 2019 #30

Thank you - funny stuff n/t VWolf Jan 2019 #37

I agree - it also emphasizes that AOC's media reach has been ProfessorPlum Jan 2019 #40

Thank you. Well said. R B Garr Jan 2019 #24

Damn, they hit that one squarly on the head. nt Ferrets are Cool Jan 2019 #18

Great critique of cynicism and "pragmatism." David__77 Jan 2019 #26

oh snap shanny Jan 2019 #27

.... jalan48 Jan 2019 #28

k&r bigtree Jan 2019 #35

The thing is that her list of "demands" isn't from her constituents, its from.... George II Jan 2019 #36

Here's a radical thought Tom Rinaldo Jan 2019 #45

One wonders who her "constituents" are. George II Jan 2019 #48

If you are challenging whether she was a resident of her district Tom Rinaldo Jan 2019 #51

Post removed Post removed Jan 2019 #54

Another great find, George! This is a very interesting R B Garr Jan 2019 #56

Another interesting "coincidence" is that in her most recent filing, Cortez.... George II Jan 2019 #60

this is like the birther thing bigtree Jan 2019 #64

Nothing at all like the "birther thing". I'm just revealing facts, not "attacking".... George II Jan 2019 #65

you're refighting the primary. I have to say bigtree Jan 2019 #68

You can call it whatever you want. I've never had my Democratic advocacy questioned before. George II Jan 2019 #77

I called it bigtree Jan 2019 #89

Facts are facts. The "birther thing" was based on a false premise. George II Jan 2019 #91

I'll call it being a residency truther bigtree Jan 2019 #93

I agree, it's "residency truthing". Operative word "truth". George II Jan 2019 #95

more like truthiness bigtree Jan 2019 #98

Thank you for finding this George. murielm99 Jan 2019 #121

Yup.. disillusioned73 Jan 2019 #67

Too late. It's been done. Autumn Jan 2019 #81

Great find! It's interesting that the outside group Brand New Congress R B Garr Jan 2019 #71

Yes, I wonder if guide has been published listing those we can or cannot criticize. George II Jan 2019 #80

Yeah, do we get to post vicious satire about AOC, R B Garr Jan 2019 #128

This message was self-deleted by its author Act_of_Reparation Jan 2019 #69

Ha! progressoid Jan 2019 #44

No kidding - I swear some of that satire is direct quotes from the Faction here on DU! hueymahl Jan 2019 #138

ROFL ananda Jan 2019 #47

Oh my.. disillusioned73 Jan 2019 #53

after reading through this thread, i see Kurt V. Jan 2019 #66

only issue with this article is that someone named Debbie is not likely to be a millennial crazycatlady Jan 2019 #73

Oh boy is that great! PatrickforO Jan 2019 #74

This is hilarious! Tipperary Jan 2019 #75

At least The Onion didn't imply she has Russian ties because of her campaign Autumn Jan 2019 #79

Has anyone here implied that? George II Jan 2019 #117

I know, right? Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2019 #131

Lol. ronnie624 Jan 2019 #84

fantastic article ProfessorPlum Jan 2019 #109

+1 ronnie624 Jan 2019 #120

You nailed it malaise Jan 2019 #140

Excellent! mountain grammy Jan 2019 #185

I thought it was pretty funny. Kali Jan 2019 #106

A smear against Steny Hoyer, one of the top D leaders, and with made-up words stopbush Jan 2019 #110

Bazinga! George II Jan 2019 #116

don't clutch your pearls too hard ProfessorPlum Jan 2019 #118

??? sheshe2 Jan 2019 #163

Yup, total RW trash, and look who falls for it. R B Garr Jan 2019 #130

Let me explain it to anyone slow on the uptake: stopbush Jan 2019 #142

Exactly, great explanation. R B Garr Jan 2019 #169

+1 betsuni Jan 2019 #175

You are Hilarious! hueymahl Jan 2019 #137

THIS n/t Apollyonus Jan 2019 #157

I don't know much about Hoyer; treestar Jan 2019 #122

IMHO, progressoid Jan 2019 #123

In my opinion, yes he very much does ProfessorPlum Jan 2019 #127

What a horrible thing to say about Hoyer. Hoyer is a great friend of House Dems. SunSeeker Jan 2019 #182

What evidence do you have for that accusation? betsuni Jan 2019 #187

Beautiful! Power 2 the People Jan 2019 #124

Bookmarked. NT. revmclaren Jan 2019 #129

So spot on! K and R Quixote1818 Jan 2019 #139

Onion Steny sounds like real Whoopi n/t KayF Jan 2019 #143

Debbie is my Rep. bluecollar2 Jan 2019 #145

I don't like this thread at all Apollyonus Jan 2019 #156

Post removed Post removed Jan 2019 #161

In this case Apollyonus Jan 2019 #170

"didn't appear on the team from a neighborhood bar" melman Jan 2019 #174

LOL @ Not All Congresscritters. Iggo Jan 2019 #164

Phenomenon. NurseJackie Jan 2019 #158

Isn't that hilarious? n/t Apollyonus Jan 2019 #168

"groveling to corporate donors." betsuni Jan 2019 #166

One thing bothers me RandySF Jan 2019 #177

And one couldn't offer constructive criticism of HRC SixString Jan 2019 #180

"constructive criticism" betsuni Jan 2019 #186

Ha! NurseJackie Jan 2019 #188

I remember all that "constructive criticism" mcar Jan 2019 #189

+1 progressoid Jan 2019 #191

Isn't it amazing? Apollyonus Jan 2019 #181