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spicysista

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23. My standard of measurment is this.....
Sat Feb 2, 2019, 03:12 PM
Feb 2019

Has the person in question done the following: dealt with their personal issues, proactively talked (been candid) about their past, and taken steps prescribed by the offended party to make it better.

"The best way to move forward is to deal with your (not you, the offender in this scenario) personal shit. Take responsibility by proactively talking about your past, how you've grown, and learned from that past. You should also actively be a part of restoration and seek understanding by listening to the hurt party."


What has or hasn't happened between Hillary and Bill have nothing to do with this. That "one on one" between spouses is something I am not going to make a judgment about.... ever. This is why it was posed as a question.

NAACP President - Northam should've disclosed past to everyone and not had a gotcha moment. The sin uponit7771 Feb 2019 #1
I think Effie had a good point about his campaign team failing on this account ProudLib72 Feb 2019 #5
THIS! n/t malaise Feb 2019 #18
The opposition reseach failed also. riversedge Feb 2019 #26
For that matter, so did the Lt. Gov's people, or else why did he agree Baltimike Feb 2019 #28
Good point. riversedge Feb 2019 #39
I think he knew and I think they knew Docreed2003 Feb 2019 #30
I totally buy that it wasn't remembered (as something that was abhorrent) ProudLib72 Feb 2019 #31
That's very true too Docreed2003 Feb 2019 #32
No, you cannot absolve yourself. You make a racist comment or action, you are a racist. Period. MadDAsHell Feb 2019 #2
So Johnson and Byrd should be shunned? tymorial Feb 2019 #29
Absolutely they should be shunned. No, you cannot "fix" being a racist. Nt MadDAsHell Feb 2019 #40
What about addressing it before it comes out? oberliner Feb 2019 #3
No they'd still bring it up underpants Feb 2019 #6
No, that's not quite true. EffieBlack Feb 2019 #10
Great point oberliner Feb 2019 #11
Unfortunately I think Northam is still arrogant MaryMagdaline Feb 2019 #16
I never saw or heard Democrats attack him for his past.. whathehell Feb 2019 #33
I don't disagree with you ProudLib72 Feb 2019 #13
Had he talked about his images or garagedoor Feb 2019 #4
Is his present mindset similar to his past mindset? ProudLib72 Feb 2019 #17
As my 7 year old little cousin would say garagedoor Feb 2019 #20
Recommended, and an excellent question. guillaumeb Feb 2019 #7
He could have brought it up himself, expressed shame for it, talked about how he evolved and grew EffieBlack Feb 2019 #8
I think we may be getting at the crux of the issue here ProudLib72 Feb 2019 #15
... spicysista Feb 2019 #9
Ask Hillary Clinton. Ms. Toad Feb 2019 #22
My standard of measurment is this..... spicysista Feb 2019 #23
You raised the issue of a spouse and infidelity. All I did was to respond to it. Ms. Toad Feb 2019 #35
Right, not to a specific couple or example.... as a rhetorical device. spicysista Feb 2019 #36
When you use a rhetorical device as a means of illustrating the point that disclosure is better Ms. Toad Feb 2019 #37
Oh I see the error.... spicysista Feb 2019 #38
It depends. WhiskeyGrinder Feb 2019 #12
I don't see the humility and ownership in his actual statements ProudLib72 Feb 2019 #19
That's a question each candidate must ask and answer for him or herself. MineralMan Feb 2019 #14
So did he forget about this picture or intentionally not mention it? Buckeyeblue Feb 2019 #21
Kind of weaselly ProudLib72 Feb 2019 #24
I very much doubt he "forgot" about the picture -- We are talking whathehell Feb 2019 #34
I have no idea what pictures of me exist in my high school yearbook from 1987. X_Digger Feb 2019 #41
You are not, I presume, running for governor whathehell Feb 2019 #42
I'm in favor of full disclosure. If the person has a long history of such behavior, then find pnwmom Feb 2019 #25
Not a direct answer, but think of Senator Robert Byrd of WV. elleng Feb 2019 #27
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