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In reply to the discussion: So how do we stop "socialism"? [View all]kennetha
(3,666 posts)2. The problem is that some of our number
ARE self-professed socialists and want to drag the party in that very direction. I'm looking at you Bernie.
If we actually nominate a self-declared socialist as our candidate for the presidency, what do we do then?
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Every time republicans throw an insult at us, we tie ourselves in knots to deny it, or "defang" it.
Squinch
Mar 2019
#1
It takes a very small amount of discipline and a lot more ability to dismiss the ridiculousness
Squinch
Mar 2019
#10
So we say, "Yes. Bernie does call himself that, but let's not let that take away from
Squinch
Mar 2019
#14
Tell people to quit cashing their SS checks, quit using highways and please don't use the
Autumn
Mar 2019
#3
What ever. If it's brought to you and paid for with your tax dollars it's socialism.
Autumn
Mar 2019
#8
Not whatever. Repeating untruths doesn't make them any more true upon the re-telling.
CrossingTheRubicon
Mar 2019
#12
Getting bogged in semantic purity does no one any good. The suggested argument is a good one.
Squinch
Mar 2019
#16
All this is exactly why we should ignore efforts to "educate the electorate" on the real meaning
Squinch
Mar 2019
#79
Exactly. "You republicans can call it whatever you want in your efforts to scare people, but we're
Squinch
Mar 2019
#88
Sorry charlie, I'm going to embrace the term. If Republicans don't like it tough shit.
Autumn
Mar 2019
#96
The Republicans DO LIKE IT. They will be very grateful if you play their game.
CrossingTheRubicon
Mar 2019
#97
If you help Republicans by amplifying their message it hurts Democrats.
CrossingTheRubicon
Mar 2019
#100
You may accept Republican framing all you want. I'll decide on my own what terms I use. nt
Autumn
Mar 2019
#101
You are playing into the Republican's hands by adopting the same "framing" as them. Not smart.
CrossingTheRubicon
Mar 2019
#107
Not at all. I reject Republicans calling programs like Social Security "socialism."
CrossingTheRubicon
Mar 2019
#90
Democrats should strongly disassociate from socialism and embrace the liberal democratic values
CrossingTheRubicon
Mar 2019
#4
It's not that it's on the move... It's that we're going to be swamped with the accusation by 2020
ck4829
Mar 2019
#21
Why? Why get into it? Why not just sell the policies that we support and everyone wants?
Squinch
Mar 2019
#25
But the truth is simply that the republicans are trying to scare them away from policies they
Squinch
Mar 2019
#33
Just because you're using the same words, it doesn't follow that you mean the same thing
gratuitous
Mar 2019
#18
You know that, I know that, problem is, not everyone is a political science major
ck4829
Mar 2019
#34
Which is why when people who are presumably on "our side" echo the language of CPAC...
CrossingTheRubicon
Mar 2019
#36
It aids the right-wing when those on the left echo the same talking points.
CrossingTheRubicon
Mar 2019
#38
Not my "opinion" but the universal understanding of political scientists worldwide.
CrossingTheRubicon
Mar 2019
#49
your link has incorrect grammatical syntax, as it says 'what is 'A' socialism',
Celerity
Mar 2019
#71
Then we would be just as dishonest as republicans. Those things are not socialism.
GulfCoast66
Mar 2019
#73
Can't we just get rid of: Military, Farm Aid, Police, Airports, Highways, Sports Arenas, etc.?
TheBlackAdder
Mar 2019
#40
Talk to people about it! The friggin socialists are trying to take away our childrens' right
struggle4progress
Mar 2019
#47
the apt description for socialist programs should be wrapped in "freedom", "fairness" and such. Buzz
beachbum bob
Mar 2019
#56
By the way, all this would be helped immeasurably by the work of a good PR firm working on
Squinch
Mar 2019
#78
We need to clearly show and contrast democratic socialism to run-amuk capitalism
vlyons
Mar 2019
#103
I'm ok with socialism as a concept and use of the term as an organizing tool.
David__77
Mar 2019
#109