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defacto7

(13,485 posts)
Fri Apr 19, 2019, 10:15 PM Apr 2019

Do we really want to rush toward a Trump pardon? [View all]

Impeachment and conviction equals Pence.

Pence equals pardon.

If he's voted out then he's indicted the first day he walks out of the WH.

Which do we want? An impeachment with a Trump pardon, or the opportunity to see him in jail?

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I want House investigations leftieNanner Apr 2019 #1
It is the duty of Congress to remove this offensive, abusive criminal.... FarPoint Apr 2019 #2
I didn't give any what ifs. It's clear. defacto7 Apr 2019 #14
Let the cards fall as they may.... FarPoint Apr 2019 #19
Impeachment is not only the duty of Congress, it's an historical imperative. DontBooVote Apr 2019 #44
I want the US Congress to do its job. KentuckyWoman Apr 2019 #3
The House can vote on its impeachment articles after 3 November 2020 struggle4progress Apr 2019 #4
I want his ugly orange ass out of the White House. The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2019 #5
The SOL runs in 2021, after Pence leaves office. SunSeeker Apr 2019 #6
fwiw, Nixon hadn't been charged when Ford pardoned him. shanny Apr 2019 #11
There will be plenty of opportunity to bring criminal charges against Trump after he leaved office. SunSeeker Apr 2019 #21
Yes, he can. Ford pardoned Nixon for all crimes he might have committed The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2019 #15
Ok. Is that any reason to forego impeaching Trump? SunSeeker Apr 2019 #22
No, because Pence can't pardon him for state crimes. The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2019 #26
Exactly. SunSeeker Apr 2019 #27
I don't care whether he goes to jail caraher Apr 2019 #7
If Trump does not going to jail he won't slink quietly off, like Nixon. pnwmom Apr 2019 #28
True, he won't be quiet if only because of his ego caraher Apr 2019 #31
I'm beginning to come to that conclusion as well. defacto7 Apr 2019 #42
Now that's a nightmare thought. defacto7 Apr 2019 #43
With Trump gone and if Pence stepped down, wouldn't Nancy Pelosi become acting President? YOHABLO Apr 2019 #8
Yes, but why would Pence step down? defacto7 Apr 2019 #10
The 25th Amendment requires a president to appoint a vice president The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2019 #16
So I guess the point of the line of succession deals with catastrophic losses, defacto7 Apr 2019 #41
I want a party that isn't stifled by fear. The facts are on our ecstatic Apr 2019 #9
This is the best answer I've read. defacto7 Apr 2019 #13
Exactly. nt SunSeeker Apr 2019 #23
THANK YOU. nt Nay Apr 2019 #36
Impeachment first... Then arrest and prison world wide wally Apr 2019 #12
I want TV hearings-- especially into his finances. dawg day Apr 2019 #17
I'm for that. defacto7 Apr 2019 #40
Pence can't pardon him for state crimes. And you can be sure he committed some. The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2019 #18
Yeah, and I hope we start hearing some news about those processes. defacto7 Apr 2019 #39
Come on, I'm so tired of this manor321 Apr 2019 #20
You can always take a nap. No just kidding.. defacto7 Apr 2019 #38
Conviction will never happen. Ever. GulfCoast66 Apr 2019 #24
That is a horrible argument... Joe941 Apr 2019 #25
What to do about a severely corrupted Senate?! democratisphere Apr 2019 #29
Face it, Trump won't serve a day in prison dalton99a Apr 2019 #30
Wouldn't that be a huge blow to his narcissistic ego. YOHABLO Apr 2019 #46
If Impeached, Trump cannot be pardoned procon Apr 2019 #32
The pardon cannot be used to nullify impeachment, but a former president can still receive a pardon tritsofme Apr 2019 #34
Lock him up! oasis Apr 2019 #33
I think that's silly... myohmy2 Apr 2019 #35
He won't be removed imo, so no President Pence Bradical79 Apr 2019 #37
Five little words... jmowreader Apr 2019 #45
I would think that means convicted of impeachment defacto7 Apr 2019 #47
No one really knows, since we've never removed a president by impeachment before jmowreader Apr 2019 #48
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