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In reply to the discussion: BTRTN: The Real Reason to Impeach Donald Trump [View all]Martin Eden
(12,843 posts)3. Should Democrats act on principle?
These 4 paragraphs from the article:
Acting purely on the basis of an amoral political calculation rather than Constitutional principle is what Trump people do. Thats what the world's ranking hypocrite, Mitch McConnell, would do: glorify the Constitution when it works in his favor and ignore it when the Constitution is inconvenient.
That is the reason Nancy Pelosi and Steny Hoyer are giving for hiding from impeachment: its a bad political strategy. Could cost us votes in the 2020 election. Cant risk that.
It is ironic that Nancy Pelosi was quick to invoke ideals and principles when she famously refused to spend a dime on Trump's border wall because it was "immoral." The hard thing about acting on principle is that it can't be an act. People who invoke principles selectively are not really living by principles.
Democrats are supposed to act on principle, casting political considerations aside when a principle is at stake. The principle here is that a man who has committed high crimes and misdemeanors should not be the President of the United States. Congress should not be waiting until the next election and outsourcing that responsibility to voters on the hope that they will do the job that Congress is afraid to do.
That is the reason Nancy Pelosi and Steny Hoyer are giving for hiding from impeachment: its a bad political strategy. Could cost us votes in the 2020 election. Cant risk that.
It is ironic that Nancy Pelosi was quick to invoke ideals and principles when she famously refused to spend a dime on Trump's border wall because it was "immoral." The hard thing about acting on principle is that it can't be an act. People who invoke principles selectively are not really living by principles.
Democrats are supposed to act on principle, casting political considerations aside when a principle is at stake. The principle here is that a man who has committed high crimes and misdemeanors should not be the President of the United States. Congress should not be waiting until the next election and outsourcing that responsibility to voters on the hope that they will do the job that Congress is afraid to do.
The question is, can we act on principle AND use that to our advantage in winning elections?
I think the answer is YES, because in the long run building trust and confidence is the key to winning votes. In the short run, I think this POtuS is very beatable whether or not the House goes forward with impeachment.
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Yes, Republicans did ... republicans gained seats in after Clinton's impeachment but not removal
uponit7771
Apr 2019
#33
They also 'won' (so to speak) the Presidency in 2000, let us not forget ...
mr_lebowski
Apr 2019
#53
Doesn't matter. It isn't about votes, it is about affirming their oaths of office.
PatrickforO
Apr 2019
#23
THey are pledged to protect America, ANYTHING that risks REELECTING the traitor prick
Eliot Rosewater
Apr 2019
#52
It's hard to take seriously an opinion of a person who can't count or doesn't know the rules.
louis c
Apr 2019
#27
Right.. but the points the author made could since they are not unique to him.
honest.abe
Apr 2019
#43
Of course you will disagree but censure hearings wont attract much attention.
honest.abe
Apr 2019
#50
Kamala Harris: : 'I believe Congress should take the steps towards impeachment'
honest.abe
Apr 2019
#60
I'm against impeachment until we have a fighting chance at 67 votes to convict in the Senate...
louis c
Apr 2019
#63
Here's a good time and reason to ask: have you called your Congresscritter today?
calimary
Apr 2019
#54
Good article. Day after day of testimony detailing Trumo's i'll outrageous conduct will me must see
Pepsidog
Apr 2019
#20
Should we starting waging some peaceful protests? The best solution is to force him to believe
Pinkflamingo
Apr 2019
#28
Is it written in stone somewhere that attempting to impeach the most corrupt president in our modern
Nevermypresident
Apr 2019
#29