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StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
41. You're right
Sat May 4, 2019, 11:39 PM
May 2019

I posed this scenario in a thread a few days ago:

If the committee tried to get a contempt ruling against Barr without a showing that it tried to obtain his testimony through its standard invitations, the short-and-sweet hearing would go something like this:

"Your Honor. We are here to request the Court find the Attorney General in contempt of Congress for failure to appear before the Committee on the Judiciary pursuant to a lawfully-issued subpoena"

"What steps did you take to secure Mr. Barr's appearance prior to issuing the subpoena?"

"Your Honor, the Committee invited the Attorney General to testify, pursuant to its rules. He accepted. However, when he learned that a Committee Counsel would ask the questions, he withdrew his acceptance. We thereupon approved the issuance of a subpoena by a majority vote of the Committee."

Did you make any other attempt to compel his appearance after issuing the subpoena?"

"No."

"You didn't try to work it out with the Justice Department?"

"No."

"Did you respond to him after he said he wouldn't appear under those terms?"

"No."

"Not even a letter?"

"No. We didn't see the point. We know they're not going to cooperate."

"You know that's not how it works, Counsel. You have to try to find a solution before you come to me to enforce a subpoena. If, after good faith effort, the Attorney General still refuses, we will revisit it. But I'm not going to issue a contempt ruling until you exhaust all of your remedies. We're adjourned."
Bang Bang (that's the gavel)


Nadler knows exactly what he’s doing.
I understand that, but an impeachment inquiry strengthens it further manor321 May 2019 #1
You may be right. The Dotard's escalating arrogant criminal behaviors will not stop. Ninga May 2019 #4
The Constitution can't wait. Nt Fiendish Thingy May 2019 #13
I think they are waiting for Mueller's testimony, which they expect within the next couple weeks. nt pnwmom May 2019 #20
I do agree with this approach. It's very important to follow procedure. However, if it gets caught UniteFightBack May 2019 #2
It's going to be in the court system for lengthy periods of time regardless. TwilightZone May 2019 #5
Impeachment fasts tracks everything. nt UniteFightBack May 2019 #7
Normal rules don't apply to Trump. TwilightZone May 2019 #8
I don't think it will be quick but it's going to be the only option. nt UniteFightBack May 2019 #10
The rules under impeachment haven't been tested under Trump Fiendish Thingy May 2019 #14
What do you think can be "fast tracked" that would move more slowly StarfishSaver May 2019 #23
The Nixon subpoena case was decided in around thre months onenote May 2019 #30
That doesn't answer my question StarfishSaver May 2019 #33
What other Watergate-related rulings did the Supreme Court make before impeachment onenote May 2019 #36
I was mistaken StarfishSaver May 2019 #37
The point of my post was that people expect it to take 2 years for the courts to rule on Congress' onenote May 2019 #38
The possibility that a court might respond positively to a request to expedite a ruling StarfishSaver May 2019 #39
i dont see how the courts get involved in impeachment hearings. mopinko May 2019 #15
For the same reason they get involved now. TwilightZone May 2019 #29
if he fails to cooperate, he can still be convinced. mopinko May 2019 #32
Agreed. TwilightZone May 2019 #3
*sigh* yes. We are readers and thinkers and patriots here at DU. Ninga May 2019 #6
It's a very complicated process that we're trying to make simple. TwilightZone May 2019 #11
Nadler and Pelosi know their shit. I'm glad neither one has aspirations to higher office ehrnst May 2019 #9
Agreed. Pelosi and Nadler know what they are doing. empedocles May 2019 #12
...and while we're giving them every chance, the clock keeps ticking which is in their favor. Nevermypresident May 2019 #16
I understand where you are coming from. This Ninga May 2019 #18
Can you explain what "judicial process" you are referring to? My understanding is our Nevermypresident May 2019 #21
Example: Nadler files contempt charges for not turning over etc. Judge sez, Nadler you know only Ninga May 2019 #25
Thank you. My exception is "two hours" vs. the actual reality of what has transpired so far,i.e. Nevermypresident May 2019 #31
Point well made! Now that I've thought about it Ninga May 2019 #35
You're right StarfishSaver May 2019 #41
me too. barbtries May 2019 #17
Yes. Exactly. MineralMan May 2019 #19
The longer the 'methodology' takes, the less likely RBG will be there to rule on it n/t Ponietz May 2019 #22
Most people aren't paying close attention StarfishSaver May 2019 #24
''Tis a mess for sure. Nt Ninga May 2019 #26
When you say: Control-Z May 2019 #27
Good catch! Why don't I just go ahead and add Democrats writ large to Congressional Dems Ninga May 2019 #28
That pretty much covers it. Control-Z May 2019 #34
8 dimensional intergalactic chess. I'm so sick of decades of intergalactic chess. MadDAsHell May 2019 #40
Not intergalactic chess. Just the law and court procedures and practice StarfishSaver May 2019 #42
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