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Tom Rinaldo

(22,911 posts)
42. I think they are positioned in their sweet spot now
Tue May 7, 2019, 02:02 PM
May 2019

I'm not convinced that they are pushing for impeachment. I think they are pushing for maximum coverup. I suspect they believe they can play the clock out on Democrats with continuing obstruction and lack of cooperation. I don't think they are defying House Democrats in order to goad us into impeachment, I think they are literally obstructing House Democrats to prevent the public from seeing the full extent of the evidence against Trump for as long as possible. I think that is their electoral calculations, to enter the 2020 election cycle with the full implications of Mueller's investigation never fully aired or litigated, and with it safely seen only in the rear view mirror.

But it is more nefarious than just that in my opinion. Republicans want Democrats to conduct hearings on Trump, but they want those hearings to lack teeth and credible witnesses. They want to run against Democrats conducting witch hunts, they want us to keep threatening to investigate, they want us to fight over subpoenas and Contempt of Congress. They want us to hold "empty chair" inquiries with key witnesses failing to show up. They want Democratic sound and fury, but they do not want the full case against Trump laid out in detail on TV for the American public to absorb. And I am increasingly coming to believe that the only way Democrats can force a full examination of Trump' conduct without being tied up in court for years is through real impeachment hearing with the Constitutional imperatives that go with it.

Republicans want to run against Democrats tilting at windmills and they are, in my opinion, operating on the assumption that they can gum up Democratic oversight hearings sufficiently to make the public tire on the whole matter, and make Democrats in Congress seem out of touch with real concerns without having literally explosive hearings that can hurt the president. Right now, I think, they have us where they want us.

Amen. shanny May 2019 #1
Nancy Pelosi Still Does Not Fully Grasp That the Trump Crisis Is Here and Now BeyondGeography May 2019 #2
Nancy Pelosi has a far better grasp on all of this than you do. StarfishSaver May 2019 #10
You're obviously running low on ammo BeyondGeography May 2019 #12
heheh nt Grasswire2 May 2019 #18
+1000. (nt) ehrnst May 2019 #30
+1, 2020 elections won't be more free or Fair than 2016 uponit7771 May 2019 #24
Yes, somehow, by not putting a spotlight on Russian interference via impeachment hearings now BeyondGeography May 2019 #33
+1, uponit7771 May 2019 #35
Oh, look. ehrnst May 2019 #47
Right, obstruction of justice is "goading" BeyondGeography May 2019 #48
Stung did it? (nt) ehrnst May 2019 #49
Lol BeyondGeography May 2019 #50
Lol ehrnst May 2019 #57
Double Amen! Raster May 2019 #3
Post removed Post removed May 2019 #4
Pelosi and Schumer assuming Trump will lose in 2020 is dangerous. lunatica May 2019 #5
+1, Putin is not going to drop his whore uponit7771 May 2019 #25
She is becoming an enabler Fullduplexxx May 2019 #6
I'm not waiting for 2020. saidsimplesimon May 2019 #7
Well Nuggets May 2019 #8
Thanks you wryter2000 May 2019 #14
The party is the impeached has never fared well post impeachment process uponit7771 May 2019 #26
I don't think it makes a difference. Nuggets May 2019 #43
Really? How often has that happened in the last 150 years? Tom Rinaldo May 2019 #53
exactly. dixiegrrrrl May 2019 #36
Many experts see Trump & co trying to push Democrats to impeachment. Hortensis May 2019 #9
It's weird seeing so many people here playing right along StarfishSaver May 2019 #11
Playing right along like Pierce, yes. Clueless targets are Hortensis May 2019 #17
"Could we impeach, try, and reimpeach and retry two times?" No, the only impeachment window is NOW Tom Rinaldo May 2019 #16
Yes, I want him gone too, but let's be smart. Hortensis May 2019 #21
Did you read what Tom posted? watoos May 2019 #39
CERTAIN, GUARANTEED Republican victory. Hortensis May 2019 #44
Put Auntie Maxine in charge of the impeachment committee watoos May 2019 #63
I think they are positioned in their sweet spot now Tom Rinaldo May 2019 #42
I don't think impeachment is the right strategy LibFarmer May 2019 #13
Yes! wryter2000 May 2019 #15
He will tout being exonerated if he is not impeached like he is already doing standingtall May 2019 #31
and what will he tout after he's impeached by the House and the repug senate lets him off??? elleng May 2019 #58
Boom. He claims victory. Four more years redstateblues May 2019 #60
Pierce supported Burnie. Sometimes misses nuance robbedvoter May 2019 #19
When the time comes, "whatever it is, we'll be ready." Hortensis May 2019 #28
process is ongoing. House investigations is how an impeachment allways starts robbedvoter May 2019 #32
Thank you for posting this. Baitball Blogger May 2019 #38
I do not think today's GOP would impeach Nixon Jarqui May 2019 #20
I think Pierce makes a very strong argument but... kentuck May 2019 #22
I don't see Pelosi recent comments helping the situation any uponit7771 May 2019 #23
I'm hoping it's part of a strategy. athena May 2019 #34
Ummmm...she never said that's the game plan. ??? nt Honeycombe8 May 2019 #27
Getting rid of him is the goal treestar May 2019 #29
The best way to get rid is to impeach him and then beat him in the 2020 election standingtall May 2019 #40
I think it's worth the risk srobertss May 2019 #55
" he's just not worth it" , House Speaker Nancy Pelosi . stonecutter357 May 2019 #37
You know she does that to troll him... ehrnst May 2019 #45
I trust Pelosi Trumpocalypse May 2019 #41
Seems to be old news... ehrnst May 2019 #46
Absolutely Firestorm49 May 2019 #51
Instead of going after the Repubilcans . . . Iliyah May 2019 #52
Whatever strategy Pelosi is contemplating, which seems to be "wait and see," she risks demoralizing alwaysinasnit May 2019 #54
K&R Kurt V. May 2019 #56
YAIP crazytown May 2019 #59
Pelosi has stated that impeachment is NOT off the table. She said that yesterday. Texin May 2019 #61
Total misrepresentation RandySF May 2019 #62
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