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In reply to the discussion: Obama Had a Green New Deal, and It Worked. Let's Do That Again. [View all]I have no idea what you are referring to here - Obama's actual meaningful accomplishments toward reversing climate change were neither because the problem wasn't solved within his administration?
Because they didn't even begin to "reverse" anything, and really the problem has gotten worse in the meantime. They didn't even "slow it down". They just "reduced the acceleration". At the time one MIGHT have been able to make the argument that if the slowing down was sustained long enough, at some time in the future, we could achieve reversal before time ran out. Whether that was true then is highly arguable. Now, we don't have that kind of time. Time IS running out, if it hasn't already.
Are you saying that Obama's legislative and diplomatic progress on climate change "interfered" with something that would have done the job already?
I'm saying that at this point in time, doing something whose time has passed, will interfere with moving towards actual solutions. Being nostalgic for the "good ole days", isn't going to solve this problem. We've wasted DECADES avoiding solutions to the problem. That has reduce the body of potential solutions to a very small set of actions that can and need to be taken.
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So tell us what would have "created the kind of reversals that were and are needed"
ehrnst
May 2019
#4
Actually, many things Obama did worked. Did you read the article at all before responding?
ehrnst
May 2019
#7
"Because working on a politically achievable policy that isn't a solution is a waste of time. "
ehrnst
May 2019
#37
Legislation requires more specificity as to what is mean by pursuing those goals.
ehrnst
May 2019
#11
He wanted it to get the floor so they could vote it down without hearings.
marylandblue
May 2019
#14
Yup, doing "something" that won't make a noticeable difference is worse than nothing.
marylandblue
May 2019
#23
How do we know that this one isn't, to use that suddenly taboo word, "moderate"? We know nothing....
George II
May 2019
#25
If they are not pursuing "IMPEACHMENT" at full volume 24/7 then they get trashed for not
ehrnst
May 2019
#30
Thanks for the info. I am glad there is some movement, and I'll read the bill later.
marylandblue
May 2019
#31
Thanks. Not getting the attention it deserves, even among us political junkies on DU.
marylandblue
May 2019
#33
He had a good healthcare plan, as a starter, excellent comprehensive immigration reform plan,
emmaverybo
May 2019
#27