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zipplewrath

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20. The data exists

Wed May 15, 2019, 01:37 PM

May 2019

Furthermore, it was acknowledge at the time that these were only the starting measure, there was more work to be done.

And no, "reducing the acceleration" is not "slowing down". In fact it is the exact opposite of that. If you are still accelerating, you are still going faster. You have to DEcelerate in order to "slow down".

Apprently you didn't read all the way through:

Is this suite of reforms going to be “enough”? No, nothing is going to be enough — even eliminating all greenhouse gasses tomorrow would leave the planet dangerously overheated.

Which is EXACTLY what I've been trying to get you to understand. It may already be too late. Our ONLY chance is to stop it QUICKLY and hope that it's ultimately possible to reverse it. It may not be.

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Obama Had a Green New Deal, and It Worked. Let's Do That Again. [View all] ehrnst May 2019 OP

yeah qazplm135 May 2019 #1

I'll take "done" over being promised the moon any day. ehrnst May 2019 #3

No, it didn't "work" zipplewrath May 2019 #2

So tell us what would have "created the kind of reversals that were and are needed" ehrnst May 2019 #4

No, that's the point zipplewrath May 2019 #5

Actually, many things Obama did worked. Did you read the article at all before responding? ehrnst May 2019 #7

No zipplewrath May 2019 #8

Let's go through this again... ehrnst May 2019 #10

Okay zipplewrath May 2019 #16

Ok... ehrnst May 2019 #18

The data exists zipplewrath May 2019 #20

The data exists, but you just can't share it? ehrnst May 2019 #24

I've read it zipplewrath May 2019 #34

"Because working on a politically achievable policy that isn't a solution is a waste of time. " ehrnst May 2019 #37

This is all that the so-called "green new deal" is: George II May 2019 #6

It's a commitment to pursue those goals. MGKrebs May 2019 #9

Legislation requires more specificity as to what is mean by pursuing those goals. ehrnst May 2019 #11

Well then why such vitriol about it? MGKrebs May 2019 #13

The vitriol that I see is coming from those who see it as the ehrnst May 2019 #21

He wanted it to get the floor so they could vote it down without hearings. marylandblue May 2019 #14

So far it's a resolution, but the goal is very clear. marylandblue May 2019 #12

The resolution isn't going to have much in the way of teeth. ehrnst May 2019 #15

Good money after bad. zipplewrath May 2019 #17

Don't make perfect the enemy of good ehrnst May 2019 #19

Far from about perfect zipplewrath May 2019 #22

So you've changed your views since this thread started? ehrnst May 2019 #26

No zipplewrath May 2019 #35

It's got a better track record that anything newly proposed. ehrnst May 2019 #36

No it doesn't zipplewrath May 2019 #39

Where is the data that shows Obama's policies did 'nothing'? ehrnst May 2019 #40

I didn't say that zipplewrath May 2019 #41

Changing your tune when you are called out on it... ehrnst May 2019 #42

Nope - Your own words: ehrnst May 2019 #43

They didn't zipplewrath May 2019 #44

That's not a retraction of what you said. ehrnst May 2019 #45

It was insufficient zipplewrath May 2019 #46

Yup, doing "something" that won't make a noticeable difference is worse than nothing. marylandblue May 2019 #23

How do we know that this one isn't, to use that suddenly taboo word, "moderate"? We know nothing.... George II May 2019 #25

I don't have a problem with the word "moderate" marylandblue May 2019 #29

If they are not pursuing "IMPEACHMENT" at full volume 24/7 then they get trashed for not ehrnst May 2019 #30

Thanks for the info. I am glad there is some movement, and I'll read the bill later. marylandblue May 2019 #31

There have been at least two House hearings on climate change: George II May 2019 #32

Thanks. Not getting the attention it deserves, even among us political junkies on DU. marylandblue May 2019 #33

He had a good healthcare plan, as a starter, excellent comprehensive immigration reform plan, emmaverybo May 2019 #27

K&R for reality mcar May 2019 #28

K&R betsuni May 2019 #38