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mcar

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28. K&R for reality

Reply to ehrnst (Original post)

Wed May 15, 2019, 02:25 PM

May 2019

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Obama Had a Green New Deal, and It Worked. Let's Do That Again. [View all] ehrnst May 2019 OP

yeah qazplm135 May 2019 #1

I'll take "done" over being promised the moon any day. ehrnst May 2019 #3

No, it didn't "work" zipplewrath May 2019 #2

So tell us what would have "created the kind of reversals that were and are needed" ehrnst May 2019 #4

No, that's the point zipplewrath May 2019 #5

Actually, many things Obama did worked. Did you read the article at all before responding? ehrnst May 2019 #7

No zipplewrath May 2019 #8

Let's go through this again... ehrnst May 2019 #10

Okay zipplewrath May 2019 #16

Ok... ehrnst May 2019 #18

The data exists zipplewrath May 2019 #20

The data exists, but you just can't share it? ehrnst May 2019 #24

I've read it zipplewrath May 2019 #34

"Because working on a politically achievable policy that isn't a solution is a waste of time. " ehrnst May 2019 #37

This is all that the so-called "green new deal" is: George II May 2019 #6

It's a commitment to pursue those goals. MGKrebs May 2019 #9

Legislation requires more specificity as to what is mean by pursuing those goals. ehrnst May 2019 #11

Well then why such vitriol about it? MGKrebs May 2019 #13

The vitriol that I see is coming from those who see it as the ehrnst May 2019 #21

He wanted it to get the floor so they could vote it down without hearings. marylandblue May 2019 #14

So far it's a resolution, but the goal is very clear. marylandblue May 2019 #12

The resolution isn't going to have much in the way of teeth. ehrnst May 2019 #15

Good money after bad. zipplewrath May 2019 #17

Don't make perfect the enemy of good ehrnst May 2019 #19

Far from about perfect zipplewrath May 2019 #22

So you've changed your views since this thread started? ehrnst May 2019 #26

No zipplewrath May 2019 #35

It's got a better track record that anything newly proposed. ehrnst May 2019 #36

No it doesn't zipplewrath May 2019 #39

Where is the data that shows Obama's policies did 'nothing'? ehrnst May 2019 #40

I didn't say that zipplewrath May 2019 #41

Changing your tune when you are called out on it... ehrnst May 2019 #42

Nope - Your own words: ehrnst May 2019 #43

They didn't zipplewrath May 2019 #44

That's not a retraction of what you said. ehrnst May 2019 #45

It was insufficient zipplewrath May 2019 #46

Yup, doing "something" that won't make a noticeable difference is worse than nothing. marylandblue May 2019 #23

How do we know that this one isn't, to use that suddenly taboo word, "moderate"? We know nothing.... George II May 2019 #25

I don't have a problem with the word "moderate" marylandblue May 2019 #29

If they are not pursuing "IMPEACHMENT" at full volume 24/7 then they get trashed for not ehrnst May 2019 #30

Thanks for the info. I am glad there is some movement, and I'll read the bill later. marylandblue May 2019 #31

There have been at least two House hearings on climate change: George II May 2019 #32

Thanks. Not getting the attention it deserves, even among us political junkies on DU. marylandblue May 2019 #33

He had a good healthcare plan, as a starter, excellent comprehensive immigration reform plan, emmaverybo May 2019 #27

K&R for reality mcar May 2019 #28

K&R betsuni May 2019 #38