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Hoyt

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7. Excellent post. I really don't think we've had a war about freedom since WWII.
Sun May 26, 2019, 10:02 AM
May 2019

One of my favorite songs in the 60s had this verse:

A sad old soldier once told me a story
About a battlefield that he was on
He said a man should never fight for glory
He must know what is right and what is wrong.

My Uncle -- Chris Hillman, Gram Parsons


Vietnam was a tough time, barely 20 years from WWII. I have the upmost respect for those drafted into that war and those who joined up to keep from being drafted (I was in that process -- #31 -- when the draft ended).

Similarly, I respect those who realized all the gung ho crud from WWII was not the truth of VN (or Iraq, etc.). I consider John Kerry a hero for coming home and speaking up. But, the "I risked my life for your freedom crowd", get little respect from me (maybe some sympathy).

I do think the way those returning from Vietnam were treated was uncalled for and almost criminal, even if they weren't drafted. Patriotism, the "irrational" fear of communism at the time, greed, etc., lead a lot of people into our Military Industrial Complex and attempts to militarily dominate the world.

K&R. n/t rzemanfl May 2019 #1
I'm too young to have fought (or be drafted) Dennis Donovan May 2019 #2
One of the first guys to figure that out was General Smedley Butler. 3Hotdogs May 2019 #3
Precisely Sherman A1 May 2019 #4
And, General Butler blew the whistle on the attempted coup against FDR Dennis Donovan May 2019 #5
Thank you for your honesty FakeNoose May 2019 #6
Excellent post. I really don't think we've had a war about freedom since WWII. Hoyt May 2019 #7
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You should post it on Veteran's day pintobean May 2019 #19
I do wasupaloopa May 2019 #20
But what if they could speak to you from the grave. wasupaloopa May 2019 #21
You don't speak for them. pintobean May 2019 #22
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