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DFW

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15. Except for the Greens doing well, not much
Sun May 26, 2019, 06:53 PM
May 2019

The German SPD deservedly got their asses handed to them (same tired old slogans that sent Martin Schulz packing 2 years ago), but their Spanish counterparts had a respectable showing.

Europe is fracturing, just like the Weimarer Republik did before Hitler's NSDAP "won" in 1933 (and check out with how much of the vote!). The vision of DeGaulle and Adenauer of uniting France and Germany, and integrating to the point where another war between France and Germany would be impossible is not dead, by any means, but the forces of disunity and nationalistic extremism are creeping back nonetheless.

It's really insane because today's European youth is completely on board with the notion of a united, borderless Europe. Go to any large gathering or main city square in Europe this summer, and you will find college students of 25 different nationalities, hanging out together as if they were all from the same place--and as far as they are concerned, they are. It's the fuck-ups here that go into politics. Voices of common sense get shouted down as if they were Democrats at a Fox Noise interview. It took a so-called "conservative" i.e. Angela Merkel, to have the courage to say no more nuclear power or coal burning in Germany. What did she get for her efforts? She got called "old and used up" by even the most liberal press here.

The Right make advances in Spain... OnDoutside May 2019 #1
Center-right narrowly leads in EU vote: estimate Eugene May 2019 #2
Unfortunately it looks like the Greens are doing well across Europe too. OnDoutside May 2019 #3
This is far from unfortunate for Europe Ghost Dog May 2019 #6
As an ideal, I agree, but the problem is single issue parties take away support from OnDoutside May 2019 #7
The Greens here are nothing like the Greens in the USA DFW May 2019 #11
Good MFM008 May 2019 #28
I've never met him in person DFW May 2019 #29
That's damned depressing so far. greatauntoftriplets May 2019 #4
+1 OnDoutside May 2019 #5
What I've seen is that far-right are gaining ground everywhere. OliverQ May 2019 #8
Apparently the populists failed in Denmark and the Netherlands, so that's good. OnDoutside May 2019 #9
Where religious extremism has been coddled and excused here, the right did well DFW May 2019 #12
I'm just hoping we can keep hanging on until a Democratic President in 2021. There are a few OnDoutside May 2019 #13
Except for the Greens doing well, not much DFW May 2019 #15
Agree with you on that. Our problem in the West is down to a lack OnDoutside May 2019 #16
Full agreement, there DFW May 2019 #25
I believe history will look favourably on Merkel's record. Were that other leaders were as resolute, OnDoutside May 2019 #30
So far, there is no one to replace Merkel DFW May 2019 #32
Thanks for a fantastic update ! OnDoutside May 2019 #33
It might, but there are some VERY youngish 60 plus people around these days. DFW May 2019 #34
Howard would be an excellent VP, though I would LOVE to see Buttigieg square up to Pence in a VP OnDoutside May 2019 #36
I've known Howard for almost 20 years now, and he has more energy than the energizer bunny DFW May 2019 #38
That's not true, though. Ghost Dog May 2019 #20
This is all very concerning indeed. nt UniteFightBack May 2019 #10
EU elections: centrist groups expected to lose grip on power OnDoutside May 2019 #14
Haven't the Europeans seen through Bannon and the Con yet? malaise May 2019 #17
Evidently not at all... 'CENTRE COLLAPSES' Baclava May 2019 #18
Bullshit "Brexit Party victory" from UK MSM spinners. Ghost Dog May 2019 #19
It's not as bad as it could have been. The Centre will do a deal with the Greens and/or Liberals. OnDoutside May 2019 #23
It's looking like the Far Right/Fascist/Populist haven't made any gains. They'll still be around the OnDoutside May 2019 #22
Very glad to hear this. I'm sure they'll try to disrupt as much as they can, but hopefully this suffragette May 2019 #26
Great news malaise May 2019 #27
Yes, it buys us a little time to get a Democratic President, to start leading again. OnDoutside May 2019 #31
All paper ballots? moondust May 2019 #21
I'm pretty sure some EU countries do, but all the ones I know, have paper ballots. After what OnDoutside May 2019 #24
No plans AT ALL here to imitate the USA with its hackable machines DFW May 2019 #35
We had a major scandal here in Ireland (what's new ?), where the Fianna Fail OnDoutside May 2019 #37
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