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ecstatic

(32,567 posts)
9. Why wasn't Jr. indicted?
Wed Jul 24, 2019, 10:38 PM
Jul 2019

Oh, that's right, he was too stupid. Yeah. There's a benign excuse for everything, it seems.

He could not indict him. drray23 Jul 2019 #1
And congress won't do it Bettie Jul 2019 #15
He could have. Or he could have gone on a public relations bltz. EndGOPPropaganda Jul 2019 #77
Here we go again. nt Codeine Jul 2019 #2
😂 live love laugh Jul 2019 #7
head meet wall... stillcool Jul 2019 #26
How can we not? Codeine Jul 2019 #28
Oy... stillcool Jul 2019 #31
Ditto. sheshe2 Jul 2019 #106
Hasn't this been discussed ad nauseam? The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2019 #3
That does not address why Mueller has let Trump get away with it. triron Jul 2019 #6
For the umpteenth time, Mueller didn't indict him because the OLC memos The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2019 #8
Why wasn't Jr. indicted? ecstatic Jul 2019 #9
And some others. Mueller also didn't have to indict Trump to accomplish what I said. triron Jul 2019 #11
You said: sheshe2 Jul 2019 #108
Possibly because the evidene didn't support indictment?? AncientGeezer Jul 2019 #19
Bullshit. I wish people would stop acting like you must have proof of a crime to indict. Solomon Jul 2019 #34
Thank you! About time someone spoke up about this. triron Jul 2019 #35
" I wish people would stop acting like you must have proof of a crime to indict." AncientGeezer Jul 2019 #38
Yes, Really. All you need is probable cause. Solomon Jul 2019 #45
+1 Nevermypresident Jul 2019 #52
Probable cause is based on a standard of proof...not suposition.. AncientGeezer Jul 2019 #63
Yep, and the drip, drip, drip shows the probable cause... Baltimike Jul 2019 #67
No votes were changed..didn't happen AncientGeezer Jul 2019 #68
Yes they were...it did indeed. Baltimike Jul 2019 #69
Source that claim....this should be interesing AncientGeezer Jul 2019 #74
Yawn Baltimike Jul 2019 #82
Jeeezuz guy. Give it up. There's nothing Solomon Jul 2019 #84
nice to have some expertise. triron Jul 2019 #86
What do you think probable cause is? Stop and Frisk. Do you support that? AncientGeezer Jul 2019 #98
wow. you'd think you'd give it up while you're ahead Baltimike Jul 2019 #101
Whoopsie. Oh, ouch. 😁 sprinkleeninow Jul 2019 #126
Former prosecuter from SDNY says most indictments are the result of circumstantial evidence Cetacea Jul 2019 #130
So why would the OLC memo limit his scope?? triron Jul 2019 #131
I repeat, same question. Really curious about your statement. triron Jul 2019 #132
There are ongoing probes and pending indictments. Cetacea Jul 2019 #133
Thank you for the explanation/clarification. triron Jul 2019 #134
Sure. I'm guessing that the real "meat" lies in the Grand Jury testimonials. Cetacea Jul 2019 #135
Yes that is quite strange isn't it? triron Jul 2019 #136
+1000. nt ecstatic Jul 2019 #53
Thank you for highlighting this very important truth. nt COLGATE4 Jul 2019 #54
You need evidence for a grand jury. You cannot just indict someone. wasupaloopa Jul 2019 #57
(Rolls eyes) nobody is talking about indicting without evidence. Solomon Jul 2019 #58
Evidence isn't proof...Ok wow.. Evidence is the basis of "proof" AncientGeezer Jul 2019 #62
and no one is indicting without evidence. Baltimike Jul 2019 #70
Lol. You're hilarious. Solomon Jul 2019 #85
Source ONE prosecuter that would do a charging motion to a Judge AncientGeezer Jul 2019 #96
Source ONE example of them actually examining voting machines. Baltimike Jul 2019 #102
That's the key question. While Mueller might have been constrained from indicting trump, Hoyt Jul 2019 #29
it's possible that Jr was one of the 12 cases NewJeffCT Jul 2019 #41
Of course there is...I guess President's sons are above the law too now. Nevermypresident Jul 2019 #51
That is not what Mueller said in the report. former9thward Jul 2019 #32
Here's what the report said: The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2019 #33
You are ignoring what he said at the beginning of the afternoon session. former9thward Jul 2019 #44
Not exactly. Here's what he said: The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2019 #48
Thank you. nt sheshe2 Jul 2019 #109
yawn proud patriot Jul 2019 #4
Ooooh the obnoxiousdrunk Jul 2019 #5
Flynn is still waiting sentencing. watoos Jul 2019 #10
I know. But he won't be charged with treason. triron Jul 2019 #12
He also won't be charged with bestiality, Codeine Jul 2019 #13
;) sheshe2 Jul 2019 #110
Because he didn't comit treason..a good reason not to be charged AncientGeezer Jul 2019 #14
The OP knows this, Codeine Jul 2019 #16
Gotcha... AncientGeezer Jul 2019 #17
Yes, but this time it's TREASON. The caps make the difference. N/T lapucelle Jul 2019 #114
aid and comfort to a hostile foreign government that attacked us Baltimike Jul 2019 #20
Actually it isn't....you need a declared "enemy" AncientGeezer Jul 2019 #23
actually...you don't need a "declared enemy" since RUSSIA'S attack declared themselves Baltimike Jul 2019 #24
What???? AncientGeezer Jul 2019 #37
Russia declared the war when they committed the act of war. Baltimike Jul 2019 #43
Can you give another example of countries that were at war with each other onenote Jul 2019 #50
Can YOU give another example of a foreign government hacking a super power Baltimike Jul 2019 #55
Good post. triron Jul 2019 #56
So you can't answer onenotes question ..right? AncientGeezer Jul 2019 #97
So you can't answer mine, right? Baltimike Jul 2019 #100
Attacking our elections systems is tantamount to an attack on democracy and our national security. triron Jul 2019 #105
Then I guess you don't know what is. onenote Jul 2019 #118
Actually not....We have to declare a war... AncientGeezer Jul 2019 #65
That is patently untrue...we do not have to declare a war Baltimike Jul 2019 #66
For Treason you need a "war".... AncientGeezer Jul 2019 #75
Sort of. You need an "enemy", which is strictly defined Codeine Jul 2019 #78
You are DEAD WRONG...like 100% wrong about that. Baltimike Jul 2019 #103
Thanks. And besides we will never declare war against a rival nuclear power. Won't happen. triron Jul 2019 #107
and beside that, acting like they can't declare on war on US is pretense...and deza. nt Baltimike Jul 2019 #111
I think these naysayers are referring to the treason as defined in the U.S. constitution triron Jul 2019 #115
You think the problem with the "naysayers" is that they're looking at the Constitution? lapucelle Jul 2019 #125
Deza? Dezinformatsiya? That's an interesting choice of words. lapucelle Jul 2019 #120
There is "such a thing as needing Congress to declare a [war]" to charge treason. lapucelle Jul 2019 #122
Obama did not terminate diplomatic relations with Russia onenote Jul 2019 #119
Robert Hansenn too Baltimike Jul 2019 #121
Treason is defined in the Article III. Section 3 of the Constitution. lapucelle Jul 2019 #113
The legal definition of "enemy" is here: triron Jul 2019 #128
Yes. I saw it. lapucelle Jul 2019 #129
We've been through this Codeine Jul 2019 #27
Putin programs Trump in secret. Kid Berwyn Jul 2019 #18
Wait WUT? ismnotwasm Jul 2019 #21
He can't. It's just warrgarbl Codeine Jul 2019 #25
not this again... sigh. Joe941 Jul 2019 #22
Come on now... Caliman73 Jul 2019 #30
Partly agree with you. I still call it treason, say what you will. triron Jul 2019 #36
You can call it a square dance......but it's NOT Treason AncientGeezer Jul 2019 #39
Accepting help from an enemy attacking USA sure is. Kid Berwyn Jul 2019 #40
The words of the Constitutional "treason" provision have specific meanings onenote Jul 2019 #47
Russia attacked the US. Trump is "OK" with that. Kid Berwyn Jul 2019 #61
Russia diddled the election under President Obama.... AncientGeezer Jul 2019 #64
Holy crap...that is why he sanctioned them...and yes, I want to Baltimike Jul 2019 #71
also...they didn't "diddle"...they ATTACKED THE USA Baltimike Jul 2019 #72
Facebook posts, twitter posts, isn't an attack....it's agitprop AncientGeezer Jul 2019 #73
Nice try there...NO DICE HACKING our voter files is an act of war Baltimike Jul 2019 #81
Why are there DUers still using diminutive terms to describe Russia's attack on our democracy with triron Jul 2019 #76
Its lame when people use words incorrectly, Codeine Jul 2019 #79
And your point is? Wait for it..... triron Jul 2019 #83
Do you like to waste readers' time? Kid Berwyn Jul 2019 #87
McConnell's wife Elaine Chao is Treasury secretary in the Trump administration triron Jul 2019 #88
Not wasting time...if you make a claim...back it. Should be easy..right? AncientGeezer Jul 2019 #99
Definitely wasting time. Baltimike Jul 2019 #104
Why do you argue Russia election interference isn't an attack? Kid Berwyn Jul 2019 #123
If congress had declared war on Russia for attacking our elections, at140 Jul 2019 #117
Treason is a crime with very specific and narrow elements that must be fulfilled. lapucelle Jul 2019 #124
I believe with all my heart that Mueller--a ReTHUG--is deliberately protecting Trump. She_Totally_Gets_It Jul 2019 #42
And what do you believe with all your heart about the many others who know onenote Jul 2019 #46
There's a difference between what *I* believe and what Mueller says the facts are... She_Totally_Gets_It Jul 2019 #60
Mueller doesn't have power of prosecution? Blue_Tires Jul 2019 #49
He followed a memo that is not law and not in the sacred constitution as far as I know Meowmee Jul 2019 #59
+1000 smirkymonkey Jul 2019 #89
I agree. Trump pulled a double whammy on our nation and is getting away scott free so far. triron Jul 2019 #90
Yep 😳😿 Meowmee Jul 2019 #91
Word. eom sprinkleeninow Jul 2019 #127
rump and company destroyed evidence, lied and obstructed justice.....and all of it worked up to a UniteFightBack Jul 2019 #80
Guess we will see up to what point. triron Jul 2019 #139
Hopefully sooner than much later (when it's too late). triron Jul 2019 #140
knr triron Jul 2019 #92
kick again triron Jul 2019 #93
kick again triron Jul 2019 #94
kick again triron Jul 2019 #95
Disagree .... wait until we see the redacted parts of the Mueller report. Botany Jul 2019 #112
Why? There is already abundant evidence Trump committed treason (more than once). triron Jul 2019 #116
kick for visibility triron Jul 2019 #137
Again. triron Jul 2019 #138
When will Flynn be sentenced? triron Aug 2019 #141
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