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FBaggins

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45. That's circular

Fri Jul 26, 2019, 01:49 PM

Jul 2019

Care to try again?

What would have happened if his articles were voted on and passed? Would Trump be able to claim that they were invalid?

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Does Pelosi need a majority in the House to start Impeachment hearings? [View all] ProfessorPlum Jul 2019 OP

Not enough votes is what I keep hearing but I think Nancy could persuade enough Autumn Jul 2019 #1

maybe not enough votes now, at the beginning of the process ProfessorPlum Jul 2019 #2

I would think that any committee chair could initiate the hearings but I think they would look to Autumn Jul 2019 #3

I don't think so, otherwise why did they hold the vote last week? sweetloukillbot Jul 2019 #6

This may be kind of in the weeds, but StarfishSaver Jul 2019 #16

There are actually two separate votes StarfishSaver Jul 2019 #12

I don't believe that there aren't enough votes -Look at the list of Democrats that haven't announced Pachamama Jul 2019 #36

Some good information to educate yourself. SouthernProgressive Jul 2019 #4

firewall, can't see it ProfessorPlum Jul 2019 #7

No firewall. SouthernProgressive Jul 2019 #8

thanks, that's a better wikipedia article than the one I was looking at ProfessorPlum Jul 2019 #11

you don't bring something to the floor without the votes...and there is a very real chance Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #27

This also has some good info as to how it might move along. SouthernProgressive Jul 2019 #9

No, they can start hearings that head towards impeachment and have damn near the same uponit7771 Jul 2019 #5

They're doing that now. StarfishSaver Jul 2019 #14

Yep, its starting to look like this. Pelosi has an uphill climb because of not holding BushCo ... uponit7771 Jul 2019 #17

No, they haven't "called off the 2020 elections" - and that will happen ONLY if enough Democrats StarfishSaver Jul 2019 #19

Correct, that's why I type "effectively" ... they don't have enough minerals to call off the ... uponit7771 Jul 2019 #21

If you think "impeachment is about all we got" you're really saying they've called off the election StarfishSaver Jul 2019 #26

... effectively ... yes, I don't see how 2020 is going to be more free and fair than 2016 or 18 uponit7771 Jul 2019 #30

I know. You keep saying that StarfishSaver Jul 2019 #32

How would that be influencing people not to excecise their power to call their reps and demand uponit7771 Jul 2019 #33

He will stonewall impeachment too...he doesn't care about prececdent or laws...and the moderates Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #28

Moderates can do the right thing and keep their seats if there's justificaton for their actions. uponit7771 Jul 2019 #29

Sorry that is completely unrealistic...if impeachment is unpopular and moderates do it anyway... Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #52

Nixon impeachment 40% Trump impeachment 45%, ... the polls are either lying or they're not uponit7771 Jul 2019 #53

He can't stonewall impeachment StarfishSaver Jul 2019 #37

Yes and no StarfishSaver Jul 2019 #10

Thanks ProfessorPlum Jul 2019 #13

Great! StarfishSaver Jul 2019 #15

+1, I wonder if it was like this during beginning of Nixon impeachment process uponit7771 Jul 2019 #18

My recollection is that it was StarfishSaver Jul 2019 #20

Cool, and impeachment became more popular after the process began it looks like. I pray Red Dons uponit7771 Jul 2019 #22

Actually, impeachment became more popular BEFORE the impeachment inquiry was opened StarfishSaver Jul 2019 #23

I was a kid at the time NewJeffCT Jul 2019 #24

Yes - those were the Senate Select Committee hearings in the spring and summer of '73 StarfishSaver Jul 2019 #25

One modification to that FBaggins Jul 2019 #31

I think you're basing this on the Politico story StarfishSaver Jul 2019 #34

On what basis do you believe it's "pure bs"? FBaggins Jul 2019 #40

Here's why StarfishSaver Jul 2019 #41

Not buying it FBaggins Jul 2019 #42

""For example, the impeachment process isn't started by 'drafting articles of impeachment.' We just StarfishSaver Jul 2019 #43

That's circular FBaggins Jul 2019 #45

But they weren't voted on and they didn't pass. That's the thing StarfishSaver Jul 2019 #47

Still think it's BS? FBaggins Jul 2019 #48

What was part of the petition? StarfishSaver Jul 2019 #49

Just what I said in #31 and #40 FBaggins Jul 2019 #50

You don't seem to understand the distinction between the committee "considering Articles" StarfishSaver Jul 2019 #51

From a new Politico piece published this morning: StarfishSaver Jul 2019 #35

I'm well aware that they're making that argument FBaggins Jul 2019 #38

They just went to court today StarfishSaver Jul 2019 #39

Nancy Pelosi Doesn't Have The Votes To Impeach Trump Gothmog Jul 2019 #44

That's a reasonable standard FBaggins Jul 2019 #46

This is one of the reasons today's move was brilliant StarfishSaver Jul 2019 #54