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Crunchy Frog

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77. The real fascists mostly aren't on the streets.

Fri Aug 9, 2019, 02:41 PM

Aug 2019

They're in the White House and Congress and state legislatures. They're on the judge's benches and in the corporate boardrooms, in ICE and other law enforcement, in the think tanks and the RW propaganda apparatus, and too many other places to name.

Anyone who thinks that beating up some punks in the streets and destroying property is even going to touch the real fascists is incredibly naive or living in a fantasy world.

That's JMHO.

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Heads up Portland on the weekend of 17th. White power v. Antifa expected. [View all] Grasswire2 Aug 2019 OP

Maine or Oregon? rurallib Aug 2019 #1

Such things don't happen in Maine. CentralMass Aug 2019 #2

Oregon. Mme. Defarge Aug 2019 #3

Portland Oregon has become the "Mecca" for alt-right rallies. Blue_true Aug 2019 #42

Soccer match at Providence Park Aug. 17 gratuitous Aug 2019 #4

oboy Grasswire2 Aug 2019 #9

Isn't the match between the USA women and Poland? Blue_true Aug 2019 #43

I don't believe Skidmore Aug 2019 #5

Up to no good? What do you think their ulterior motive might be? maxsolomon Aug 2019 #8

I think of the violent ones like the anarchists that pretend they care about capitalism AJT Aug 2019 #39

WTO was 20 years ago. 2 decades. maxsolomon Aug 2019 #69

I am not suggesting that most in the Antifa movement are violent, AJT Aug 2019 #72

You have no evidence of that; you're speculating. Paranoia will destroy ya. maxsolomon Aug 2019 #73

I'd suggest that you're buying the propaganda. Scoopster Aug 2019 #76

Opposing fascism is the normal, default reaction of sane people. Tommy_Carcetti Aug 2019 #66

Andy Ngo was picking the fight. maxsolomon Aug 2019 #70

They hide their faces to avoid harassment and retaliation by Downtown Hound Aug 2019 #12

I don't think so Tommy_Carcetti Aug 2019 #16

They fight fascists, often at great risk to themselves Downtown Hound Aug 2019 #17

This group has a history of violent rioting leaving a wake CentralMass Aug 2019 #20

The planet is burning and we are descending into fascism Downtown Hound Aug 2019 #22

They are a bag if desructive @$$holes. They did this without any counter protest groups. CentralMass Aug 2019 #25

Shouldn't that make you happy that they didn't include the "peaceful" protesters? Downtown Hound Aug 2019 #27

There were peaceful protesters at that anti tRump rally in November of 2016 and that zmay Day CentralMass Aug 2019 #31

Let me explain something to you about the "right's narrative" Downtown Hound Aug 2019 #35

A violent destructive @$$hole who's intent is to commit destruction of property and personal imjury CentralMass Aug 2019 #38

Yup jberryhill Aug 2019 #40

They've never hurt anybody that wasn't, in some way, shape, or form, trying to hurt others Downtown Hound Aug 2019 #41

You're not really selling many people on this, I hate to tell you. Tommy_Carcetti Aug 2019 #64

Don't care if I'm selling you or not Downtown Hound Aug 2019 #67

He sold me. maxsolomon Aug 2019 #71

The real fascists mostly aren't on the streets. Crunchy Frog Aug 2019 #77

Maybe we could ask Heather Heyer about your humble opinions. maxsolomon Aug 2019 #78

They're everywhere. Downtown Hound Aug 2019 #79

You are so wrong stevil Aug 2019 #82

And that's Americanism distilled to its very essence. LanternWaste Aug 2019 #63

That sounds BurntPickle Aug 2019 #87

People like you haven never done shit to stop fascism Downtown Hound Aug 2019 #88

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Plenty thanks. Downtown Hound Aug 2019 #90

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I was fighting the Bush administration and their fascist invasion of Iraq Downtown Hound Aug 2019 #92

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Don't really care. Downtown Hound Aug 2019 #94

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Whatever. Go not believe someone else. Downtown Hound Aug 2019 #96

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It's pretty obvious you're just a troll, dude. Downtown Hound Aug 2019 #98

I'd like to hear about your fighting. DashOneBravo Aug 2019 #100

What do you want to know? Downtown Hound Aug 2019 #101

What cities did you fight in? DashOneBravo Aug 2019 #102

I didn't wear a mask Downtown Hound Aug 2019 #103

Thank you. DashOneBravo Aug 2019 #104

The planet isn't burning? LOL. Downtown Hound Aug 2019 #105

I'm cool with them, but that's just me. MarvinGardens Aug 2019 #49

Sigh... same shit, different day. Why do they keep allowing this? Initech Aug 2019 #6

uh.................the freedoms we all enjoy. nt Grasswire2 Aug 2019 #11

Not a whole lot you can do about it without trampling the constitution. n/t Downtown Hound Aug 2019 #14

If the government can't, could the venues and surrounding businesses refuse them? Initech Aug 2019 #36

Sure. Downtown Hound Aug 2019 #37

no. Grasswire2 Aug 2019 #45

Counter advice: go downtown en masse. Own your city. Don't give it to out-of-town Fascists. maxsolomon Aug 2019 #7

not condemning antifa Grasswire2 Aug 2019 #10

A remote possibility. maxsolomon Aug 2019 #74

"Antifa" is shady as hell. Tommy_Carcetti Aug 2019 #15

LOL. Downtown Hound Aug 2019 #18

Do you live in Portland ? CentralMass Aug 2019 #21

Nope, but I live in the Bay Area Downtown Hound Aug 2019 #23

Then you have no business telling people to go downtown when these @$$hole are planning to riot. CentralMass Aug 2019 #28

I showed up when they were here Downtown Hound Aug 2019 #30

well, that's not true Grasswire2 Aug 2019 #46

I've been to enough of these marches to know that if you want to avoid trouble, you can Downtown Hound Aug 2019 #48

I agree. I've been to a couple in the past year and a half: one in Denver and one in KPN Aug 2019 #75

They're legit bogeymen of the right. Tommy_Carcetti Aug 2019 #24

And that's why I support them Downtown Hound Aug 2019 #29

I'm cool with them. MarvinGardens Aug 2019 #50

Fuck avoiding downtown Downtown Hound Aug 2019 #13

I actually wanted to go to Portland that weekend to see 311. Initech Aug 2019 #44

Right on! Downtown Hound Aug 2019 #47

The Proud Boys are just bullies. Initech Aug 2019 #51

Yup. Downtown Hound Aug 2019 #52

Same old song and dance. Scurrilous Aug 2019 #19

some info to keep in mind re: "antifa" -- from a clergy member Grasswire2 Aug 2019 #26

this is the only thing I've read... stillcool Aug 2019 #32

If only somebody paid them Downtown Hound Aug 2019 #34

Fear based garbage Downtown Hound Aug 2019 #33

When we fear even expressing disapproval of fascism, then fascism has won. MarvinGardens Aug 2019 #53

Playing right into the RW agenda and going to get the rest of us totally screwed. Crunchy Frog Aug 2019 #54

Very few Downtown Hound Aug 2019 #55

Y'know what I'm worried about customerserviceguy Aug 2019 #58

Will there be Fascists at the Democratic Convention? maxsolomon Aug 2019 #81

There seems to be a lot of disgruntled people out there customerserviceguy Aug 2019 #83

If Fascists show up, Antifa will be there to oppose them. maxsolomon Aug 2019 #84

Antifa customerserviceguy Aug 2019 #85

Quite a few, IMHO. Tommy_Carcetti Aug 2019 #65

Spoken like someone who has never spent any time around them Downtown Hound Aug 2019 #68

That's impressive DashOneBravo Aug 2019 #99

This is the best defense of Antifa I've ever read Downtown Hound Aug 2019 #56

Nice read dustyscamp Aug 2019 #86

Oh, shit customerserviceguy Aug 2019 #57

also, there are multiple closings of sections of the freeways and streets... Grasswire2 Aug 2019 #59

Nope, renting a car that weekend customerserviceguy Aug 2019 #60

Just check that link for freeway closings and delays if you need to use freeways on East side. nt Grasswire2 Aug 2019 #61

Usually customerserviceguy Aug 2019 #62

Portland should stop these un-American white power Nazis.The USA in the past shot those pos rockfordfile Aug 2019 #80