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the point is, he was allowed to kill himself. 5X Aug 2019 #1
This happens in prisons a lot. Even high-profiled prisoners are mishandled, because the system is a WhiskeyGrinder Aug 2019 #6
There's no excuse for taking him off of suicide watch after only 6 days. pnwmom Aug 2019 #52
There's no conspiracy. He died as he always lived -- by cheating. Someone like that always makes WhiskeyGrinder Aug 2019 #2
In my opinion this observation wins the day. gordianot Aug 2019 #15
Excellent point. cwydro Aug 2019 #45
Agreed customerserviceguy Aug 2019 #82
Sometimes it is what it is. Srkdqltr Aug 2019 #3
The conspiracy theories have started and will never end. Cyrano Aug 2019 #4
Call it a conspiracy theory if you want, I call it common sense. brush Aug 2019 #13
It did not "just come out" that he introduced those two grifters essme Aug 2019 #25
I don't think there's a conspiracy theory here either. IMO his death... brush Aug 2019 #28
Even if Epstein could have fingered Trump or other powerful people... brooklynite Aug 2019 #75
What if Epstein was selling his blackmail information to Putin njhoneybadger Aug 2019 #80
Nothing to see here folks... FiveGoodMen Aug 2019 #35
He was murdered , sigh...the most powerful men in the world wanted him silenced Eliot Rosewater Aug 2019 #5
Conspiracy theories are common here. I'm not sure what folks think Epstein was going to reveal, Hoyt Aug 2019 #7
K&R n/t RKP5637 Aug 2019 #9
He consistently pleaded the fifth according to the document release yesterday. nt chowder66 Aug 2019 #11
According to at least one of the underaged girls that was quoted in the Jane Doe Nevermypresident Aug 2019 #18
I don't even believe you're Hoyt True Dough Aug 2019 #27
That's one of those conspiracy theories I'm talking about. I am a famous Hoyt Aug 2019 #34
I don't recall any bad blood between us, "Hoyt" True Dough Aug 2019 #42
You're good. Hoyt Aug 2019 #65
Phew! True Dough Aug 2019 #66
...or that would be believed StarfishSaver Aug 2019 #50
Please. There's supposed to be nothing to hook to in those cells to hang yourself. brush Aug 2019 #8
Exactly. I love the chorus of "reason" - Occam's razor and all that. harumph Aug 2019 #17
Sooo...he drove (or somehow found a way) to the bridge...put his shoes in place because... cwydro Aug 2019 #48
1947 - upstate NY. harumph Aug 2019 #57
Of course people do it. cwydro Aug 2019 #60
My thoughts too kozar Aug 2019 #30
Correct. If you play chess you know the king is far from the most powerful piece. brush Aug 2019 #32
In Response To Your Number #1 Point..... global1 Aug 2019 #10
It's surprisingly common cab67 Aug 2019 #19
Any Numbers? Links? ..... global1 Aug 2019 #23
I don't know of any dedicated web pages cab67 Aug 2019 #26
I've Read About Victim's Suicide .... global1 Aug 2019 #31
I said 'surprisingly common.' cab67 Aug 2019 #36
Not in federal prisons and definitely not in MCC where Epstein was held Arazi Aug 2019 #39
But Ghislaine Maxwell's own father did as his empire crumbled down arounf his ears ... marble falls Aug 2019 #71
Move along, nothing to see here. Nothing suspicious here at all. LisaL Aug 2019 #12
I never said there was nothing to see here. cab67 Aug 2019 #21
Wake up. Do not believe a word out of the trump/barr cabal. brush Aug 2019 #62
Every time someone references Oswald CT another angel somewhere loses his wings. nt BootinUp Aug 2019 #14
Not sure there was a conspiracy there, either. cab67 Aug 2019 #24
I don't buy the CTs either DeminPennswoods Aug 2019 #16
Who authorized him to be taken off of suicide watch? panader0 Aug 2019 #20
I wonder if there's software AI that can detect strange/dangerous physical behavior mr_lebowski Aug 2019 #68
Probably. meadowlander Aug 2019 #79
This!: "Epstein was followed for many years, and the records are already in hand." Leghorn21 Aug 2019 #22
We don't even really know if someone injured him earlier or if it really was an earlier attempt womanofthehills Aug 2019 #29
I too do not see yet any evidence that his death was the result of a conspiracy to silence him, for emmaverybo Aug 2019 #33
I'm with you on this StarfishSaver Aug 2019 #37
Anyone who takes anything this admin says or does at face value is a fool BannonsLiver Aug 2019 #38
They are criminals. Claritie Pixie Aug 2019 #41
take it with a grain of salt stopdiggin Aug 2019 #43
You take it however you like BannonsLiver Aug 2019 #44
Do you beleive Epstein is dead? jberryhill Aug 2019 #53
Well done. cwydro Aug 2019 #69
What if the feds under Barr's direction get rid of the evidence. Claritie Pixie Aug 2019 #40
destroying evidence is generally a crime stopdiggin Aug 2019 #46
Of course it is but who would enforce that? Claritie Pixie Aug 2019 #47
it's getting people to do it in the first place stopdiggin Aug 2019 #49
I hope you're right about that. Claritie Pixie Aug 2019 #51
truth !! stopdiggin Aug 2019 #58
I'd say the most likely scenario is that the prison staff were paid to look the other way... backscatter712 Aug 2019 #54
I don't believe he killed himself. LisaL Aug 2019 #55
LOL, ok! nt USALiberal Aug 2019 #85
I disagree Sunsky Aug 2019 #56
The report is that Epstein was on suicide watch DeminPennswoods Aug 2019 #59
I agree Sunsky Aug 2019 #64
Not blaming the professionals at all DeminPennswoods Aug 2019 #70
To an extent Sunsky Aug 2019 #72
Apparently it wasn't taken lightly DeminPennswoods Aug 2019 #74
Fool yourself but pls don't try to fool the rest of us. brush Aug 2019 #61
It's also possible that it was neither suicide nor murder by powerful people FBaggins Aug 2019 #63
There is... cab67 Aug 2019 #67
As far as I can tell he was by himself in a cell. LisaL Aug 2019 #73
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I don't really trust things that happen in prison at face value JonLP24 Aug 2019 #76
Trump must be involved at some level Frances Aug 2019 #77
Right. He's in prison facing a lot of time and horrible Pisces Aug 2019 #78
Why I don't necessarily buy the notion that extremely wealthy, powerful men Crunchy Frog Aug 2019 #81
I agree, but it feeds the tinfoil hat crowd Kilgore Aug 2019 #83
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Remorse has nothing to do with it. cab67 Aug 2019 #88
Pushing a conspiracy theory seems to the in thing to do. Joe941 Aug 2019 #87
He might not be dead TSIAS Aug 2019 #89
I have an Idea... let's wait a few more days instead of 'guessing'. n/t JustFiveMoreMinutes Aug 2019 #90
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