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Showing Original Post only (View all)Jennifer Rubin: "Pelosi was right to wait" [View all]
Im not impressed with far-left Democrats claiming they were leaders on impeachment by seeking President Trumps ouster two years ago. It would have been foolhardy until now to progress to impeachment.
A fact pattern as complicated as the Trump campaigns solicitation of Russian help and Trumps attempt to cover it up was destined to lose the publics attention. It took special counsel Robert S. Mueller III 22 months and 448 pages to explain it. Moreover, in that set of circumstances the Trump-appointed attorney general could get his hands on it first, massage the facts and then instruct executive branch witnesses not to cooperate. Congress did not have the right facts nor the right powers to dislodge the truth in a compelling fashion. The public remained staunchly opposed to impeachment for Russia-related issues.
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) can read the polls and knows her members. Moreover, she knows a thing or two about public sentiment and how to sway it. Holding off on impeachment until the Ukraine scandal popped up gave her several advantages.
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A skilled leader doesnt go plunging into the abyss of impeachment without her party, the public and a concise narrative all lined up. She learns from past errors (e.g., dont rush to court to compel testimony, a process that takes months, and dont let members conduct factual inquiries at hearings) and adjusts her strategy accordingly. One can see just how skillful Pelosi has been by the lack of a coherent response from Republicans. By picking the right fight at the right time and withstanding outside pressure to act precipitously Pelosi has positioned her members to make the best possible case against Trump while defending their majority. In retrospect, it certainly is fortunate her members didnt push her out of the way in favor of a novice leader.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/09/25/pelosi-was-right-wait/
A fact pattern as complicated as the Trump campaigns solicitation of Russian help and Trumps attempt to cover it up was destined to lose the publics attention. It took special counsel Robert S. Mueller III 22 months and 448 pages to explain it. Moreover, in that set of circumstances the Trump-appointed attorney general could get his hands on it first, massage the facts and then instruct executive branch witnesses not to cooperate. Congress did not have the right facts nor the right powers to dislodge the truth in a compelling fashion. The public remained staunchly opposed to impeachment for Russia-related issues.
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) can read the polls and knows her members. Moreover, she knows a thing or two about public sentiment and how to sway it. Holding off on impeachment until the Ukraine scandal popped up gave her several advantages.
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A skilled leader doesnt go plunging into the abyss of impeachment without her party, the public and a concise narrative all lined up. She learns from past errors (e.g., dont rush to court to compel testimony, a process that takes months, and dont let members conduct factual inquiries at hearings) and adjusts her strategy accordingly. One can see just how skillful Pelosi has been by the lack of a coherent response from Republicans. By picking the right fight at the right time and withstanding outside pressure to act precipitously Pelosi has positioned her members to make the best possible case against Trump while defending their majority. In retrospect, it certainly is fortunate her members didnt push her out of the way in favor of a novice leader.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/09/25/pelosi-was-right-wait/
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I know Jennifer Rubin is a conservative at heart, but IMO, she's been one of the best
hlthe2b
Sep 2019
#1
Yes. Her, Anna Navarro, Rick Wilson have been throwing head shots at Trump from Day 1.
Blue_true
Sep 2019
#67
I agree she's handled this terrifically. Pressure from the left was also helpful.
femmedem
Sep 2019
#5
I disagree on the value of the far left in this instance. They, plain and simple, were a
Blue_true
Sep 2019
#70
And they totally ignored the fact that the seven were part of the rollout Pelosi
StarfishSaver
Sep 2019
#105
This affair shows why the loose cannons in our democratic left should not be celebrated.
Blue_true
Sep 2019
#68
Many, too many. We now know that Pelosi is a shrewd politician, we're lucky she's on our side.
George II
Sep 2019
#39
The DU members that pounded Speaker Pelosi as weak on impeachment have gone to cover.
Blue_true
Sep 2019
#72
Yeah. Skilled tactical execution always looks like luck to the uninformed. nt
Blue_true
Sep 2019
#75
i did. but reaction to a lucky bounce is important too. she did the right thing. That's admirable
Lib 4 Life
Sep 2019
#88
Very abrasive! They should at the very least fess up and admit they were wrong
Thekaspervote
Sep 2019
#77
Especially the ones who insisted that Nancy Pelosi actively opposed impeachment
dansolo
Sep 2019
#165
Oh yeah. When she is done with politics, the books that she write should be required reading. nt
Blue_true
Sep 2019
#74
Interjecting fact...80% of Dems were for Impeachment in December 2018
Laura PourMeADrink
Sep 2019
#112
This way was the only way for a chance of convicting the grifter in the Senate.
yellowcanine
Sep 2019
#12
That 'impatience' is costly. Rw'ers use it a lot - because it helps a lot. trump is not winning
empedocles
Sep 2019
#58
Disagree... if she continues to behave this way she will never climb in the ranks of leadership
Thekaspervote
Sep 2019
#84
Yes, if she wants to come to the table, then she's got to prove herself as more than just
Thekaspervote
Sep 2019
#117
But what if there is a bigger, juicier, worse scandal coming in a week or two?
Cuthbert Allgood
Sep 2019
#19
I doubt too many Members who didn't support impeachment before got on board because AOC yelled
StarfishSaver
Sep 2019
#23
A sure sign is that she's been virtually invisible since Pelosi's annoincement
StarfishSaver
Sep 2019
#150
Yesterday, of all the people key to the House whistleblower hearing, an odd one stood out on fox.
empedocles
Sep 2019
#162
1. She knew he would eventually hang himself because corruption is his way of life. She was waiting
emmaverybo
Sep 2019
#132
I appreciate that AOC et al kept the concept of impeachment in the public eye...
Wounded Bear
Sep 2019
#14
I'd be more wiling to give AOC, et all more credit if their agitating had been directed at educating
StarfishSaver
Sep 2019
#24
i certainly wouldn't go that far. we're all on the same team. Should the speaker apologize to AOC
Lib 4 Life
Sep 2019
#78
and that's your opinion. yours isn't any more important than mine. and vice versa
Lib 4 Life
Sep 2019
#83
That's fantasy. a few good breaks and pelosi reacted with authority. I'm proud of her.
Lib 4 Life
Sep 2019
#91
and Nancy had insulted her many times. so what? its perspective. I'm for both women.
Lib 4 Life
Sep 2019
#111
i suppose i am to some degree. I'm incensed. I'm angry. I'm 33 years old and somebody has fucked
Lib 4 Life
Sep 2019
#136
A Break? That's what amateurs would call it. The Politically savvy know it was a lot more
Thekaspervote
Sep 2019
#100
You insult madam speaker and then say you are proud of her??? Which is it?
Thekaspervote
Sep 2019
#103
I'm proud of her. I'm responding to the fucking reply. we don't need to do this
Lib 4 Life
Sep 2019
#106
I'm only a few years older than AOC. we're upset about our future. maybe she shouldn't
Lib 4 Life
Sep 2019
#139
Yes an apology from AOC, and all those here on DU that were just as hateful
Thekaspervote
Sep 2019
#89
Impressive, beautifully stated reply which articulates the very reservations I have which make it
emmaverybo
Sep 2019
#134
Dozens of representatives, CNN, MSNBC, et. al. have kept the concept of impeachment....
George II
Sep 2019
#40
Yes indeed, and none of them called the failure to impeach a bigger scandal than what trump did.
George II
Sep 2019
#43
I'd take Jennifer Rubin over some of them any day. They obviously have never seen her....
George II
Sep 2019
#46
Kudos to you!! DU and the dem party would be a better place if everyone was willing to admit
Thekaspervote
Sep 2019
#107
"House Democrats Issue Condemnation Of Ukraine For Making It Harder To Avoid Impeaching Trump"
Orrex
Sep 2019
#32
My interpretation isn't "post hoc." I've been telling y'all for months not to underestimate NDP
StarfishSaver
Sep 2019
#35
"it certainly is fortunate her members didn't push her out of the way in favor of a novice leader."
DFW
Sep 2019
#52
while i agree with Rubin's take many other democrats have said the same. as soon as
Lib 4 Life
Sep 2019
#60
Right there with ya!! Kudos to you for standing up for her when most were not!!
Thekaspervote
Sep 2019
#120
Rubin is spot on. Any sooner would be seen as jumping the gun, sore-loser-ism, etc.
flibbitygiblets
Sep 2019
#126
I don't care about her politics, as long as she doesn't support government corruption. She's
emmaverybo
Sep 2019
#129
No, it's not "either way" and you've actually been trashing Pelosi, not praising her.
ehrnst
Sep 2019
#153
So you're not going to answer my question about who she was "with" in April if she wasn't
ehrnst
Sep 2019
#164
Glad you and others who didn't get it finally came around about her skills in handling this.
ehrnst
Sep 2019
#159
She rope-a-doped him, made him think she wouldn't do it after Mueller. There he stuck his hand in
NCLefty
Sep 2019
#143
I don't believe she wanted to go down this road but her hand was forced by Trumps own actions
TNLib
Sep 2019
#156
Actually, she was the one who forced his hand. I guess you didn't hear about that...
ehrnst
Sep 2019
#160
Pelosi simply waited for the support to build up in the Democratic caucus.
GreenEyedLefty
Sep 2019
#166