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In reply to the discussion: BREAKING - Adam Schiff releases info on key documents (texts) tonight! [View all]Roland99
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October 3, 2019
Members of the Intelligence, Oversight and Reform, and Foreign Affairs Committees
Washington, D.C. 20515
Dear Colleagues:
We are writing to convey our grave concerns with the unprecedented actions of President
Donald Trump and his Administration with respect to the House of Representatives
impeachment inquiry.
The President and his aides are engaging in a campaign of misinformation and
misdirection in an attempt to normalize the act of soliciting foreign powers to interfere in our
elections.
We have all now seen the summary of the call in which President Trump repeatedly
urged the Ukrainian President to launch an investigation into former Vice President Joe Biden
immediately after the Ukrainian President mentioned critical U.S. military assistance to counter
Russian aggression.
The President claims he did nothing wrong. Even more astonishing, he is now openly
and publicly asking another foreign powerChinato launch its own sham investigation
against the Bidens to further his own political aims.
This is not normal or acceptable. It is unethical, unpatriotic, and wrong. American
Presidents should never press foreign powers to target their domestic political rivals. Engaging
in these stunning abuses in broad daylight does not absolve President Trump of his
wrongdoingswr his grave offenses against the Constitution.
Over the past week, new repoxts have revealed that other Trump Administration officials
also may have been involved in the illicit effort to get Ukrainian help for the Presidents
campaign.
For example, Secretary of State Mike Pompeo has now admitted that he was on the call
when President Trump explicitly pressed the Ukrainian President to investigate the Bidens
but failed to report this to the FBI or other law enforcement authorities. You will recall, FBI
Director Christopher Wray urged individuals to report efforts to seek or receive help from a
foreign power that may intervene in a U.S. presidential election.
This obligation is not diminished when the instigator of that foreign intervention is the
President of the United States; it is all the more crucial to the security of our elections. Instead,
when asked by the media about his own knowledge or participation in the call, Secretary
Pompeo dissembled.
PRINTED ON RECYCLED PAPER
Likewise, we are investigating reports that Vice President Mike Pence may have been
made aware of the contents of the call, and his absence from the Ukrainian Presidents
inauguration may have been related to efforts to put additional pressure on Ukraine to deliver on
the Presidents demands,
This week, current and former State Department officials have begun cooperating with
the impeachment inquiry by producing documents and scheduling interviews and depositions.
Based on the first production of materials, it has become immediately apparent why Secretary
Pompeo tried to block these officials from providing information.
The Committees have now obtained text messages from Ambassador Kurt Volker, the
former Special Representative for Ukraine Negotiations, communicating with other officials,
including William B. Bill Taylor, the Charge dAffaires at the U.S. Embassy in Ukraine,
Gordon Sondland, the U.S. Ambassador to the European Union, Andrey Yermak, Aide to
Ukrainian President Zelensky, the Presidents agent Rudy Giuliani, and others.
These text messages reflect serious concerns raised by a State Department official about
the detrimental effects of withholding critical military assistance from Ukraine, and the
importance of setting up a meeting between President Trump and the Ukrainian President
without further delay, He also directly expressed concerns that this critical military assistance
and the meeting between the two presidents were being withheld in order to place additienal
pressure 011 Ukraine to deliver on the Presidents demand for Ukraine to launch politically
motivated investigations
Earlier today, selected portions of these texts were leaked to the press out of context. In
order to help correct the public record, we are now providing an attachment with more complete
excerpts from the exchanges. The additional excerpts we are providing are still only a subset of
the full body of the materials, which we hope to make public after a review for personally
identifiable information.
Our investigation will continue in the coming days. But we hope every Member of the
House will join us in condemning in the strongest terms the Presidents now open defiance of our
core values as American citizens to guard against foreign interference in our democratic process.
Sincerely,
' /
Eliot L. Engel Adam B. Schiff
Chairman Chairman
House Committee on Foreign Affairs House Permanent Select Committee
on Intelligence
Elijah Ev. Cummings
Chairman
House Committee on Oversight and Reform
ATTACHMEN T
Connecting Rudy Giuliani with Ukraine President Zelenskvs Adviser: On July 19,
Ambassador Volker texted President Trumps agent, Rudy Giuliani, to thank him for
breakfast and to introduce him to Andrey Yermak, a top advisor to President Zelensky:
[7/19/19, 4:48 PM] Kurt Volker: Mr Mayor really enjoyed breakfast this
morning. As discussed, connecting you here with Andrey Yermak, who is very
close to President Zelensky. I suggest we schedule a call together on Monday 4
maybe 10am or 11am Washington time? Kurt
Sondland Briefs Zelenskv Ahead of Call with President Trump: On July 19, 2019,
Ambassador Volker, Ambassador Sondland, and Mr. Taylor had the following exchange
about the specific goal for the upcoming telephone call between President Trump and the
Ukrainian Presicient:
[7/ 19/ 1 9, 4:49:42 PM] Kurt Volker: Can we three do a call tomorrowsay noon
WASHINGTON?
[7/ 19/19, 6:50:29 PM] Gordon Sondland: Looks like Potus call tomorrow. I spike
[sic] directly to Zelensky and gave him a full briefing. Hes got it.
[7/19/19, 6:52:57 PM] Gordon Sondland: Sure!
[7/ 1 9/ 19, 7:01 :22 PM] Kurt Volker: Good. Had breakfast with Rudy this
morningteeing up call w Yennak Monday. Must have helped. Most impt is for
Zelensky to say that he will help investigationwand address any specific
personnel issues4if there are any
Concerns about Ukraine Becoming an Instrument in U.S. Politics: On J uly 21,
2019, Ambassador Taylor flagged President Ze1enskys desire for Ukraine not to be used
by the Trump Administration for its own domestic political purposes:
[7/21/ 19, 1:45:54 AM] Bill Taylor: Gordon, one thing Kurt and I talked about
yesterday was Sasha Danyliuks point that President Zelenskyy is sensitive about
Ukraine being taken seriously, not merely as an instrument in Washington
domestic, reelection politics.
[7/21/19, 4:45:44 AM] Gordon Sondland: Absolutely, but we need to get the
conversation started and the relationship built, irrespective of the pretext. I am
worried about the alternative.
Giuliani Advocates for Trumn-Zelenskv Call: Mr. Yerrnak and Mr. Giuliani agreed to
speak on the morning of July 22. Later that evening, Ambassador Volker informed
Ambassadors Sondland and Taylor that Giuliani was now advocating for a phone call
between President Trump and President Zelensky:
[7/22/19 4:27:55 PM] Kurt Volker: Orchestrated a great phone call w Rudy and
Yermak. They are going to get together when Rudy goes to Madrid in a couple of
weeks.
[7/22/ 19 4:28:08 PM] Kurt Volker: In the meantime Rudy is now advocating for
phone call.
[7/22/ 19 4:28:26 PM] Kurt Volker: I have call into Fionas replacement and will
call Bolton if needed.
[7/22/19 4:28:48 PM Kurt Volker: But I can tell Bolton and you can tell Mick that
Rudy agrees on a call if that helps.
[7/22/ 19 4:30:10 PM] Gordon Sondland: I talked to Tim Morrison Fionas
replacement. He is pushing but feel free as well.
Volker Advises Yermak Ahead of TrumpZelenskv Call: On the morning of July 25,
2019ahead of the planned call between President Trump and President Zelensky
Ambassador Volker advised Andrey Yennak:
[7/25/19, 8:36:45 AM] Kurt Volker: Good lunch ~ thanks. Heard from White
Houseiassuming President Z convinces trump he will investigate / get to the
bottom of what happened in 2016, we will nail down date for visit to
Washington. Good luck! See you tomorrow- kuit
Yermaks Informal Readout of the TrumpZeienskv Call: Following President
Trumps July 25 call, Ambassador Volker received the following readout from Ukrainian
Presidential Adviser Yermak and confirmed his intent to meet Giuliani in Madrid:
[7/25/19, 10:15:06 AM] Andrey Yerrnak: Phone call went well. President Trump
proposed to choose any convenient dates. President Zelenskiy chose 20,21,22
September for the White House Visit. Thank you again for your help! Please
remind Mr. Mayor to share the Madrids dates
[7/25/ 19, 10:16:42 AM] Kurt Volker: Great thanks and will do!
State Department Officials Discuss a White House Visit and Ukraine Statement: On
August 9, 2019, Ambassador Volker had the following exchange with Ambassador
Sondland about arranging a White House meeting after the Ukrainian President makes a
public statement:
[8/9/19, 5: 35:53 PM] Gordon Sondland: Morrison ready to get dates as soon as
Yermak confirms.
[8/9/ 19, 5: 46:21 PM] Kurt Volker: Excellent How did you sway him? 2)
[8/9/ 19, 5: 47:34 PM] Gordon Sondland: Not sure i did. I think potus really wants
the deliverable
[8/9/19, 5: 48:00 PM] Kurt Volker: But does he know that?
[8/9/19, 5: 48:09 PM] Gordon Sondland: Yep
[8/9/ 19, 5: 48:37 PM] Gordon Sondland: Clearly lots of convos going on
[8/9/ 19, 5:48:38 PM] Kurt Volker: Okthen thats good its coming from two
separate sources
[8/9/ 19, 5: 51:18 PM] Gordon Sondland: To avoid misundestandings, might be
helpful to ask Andrey for a draft statememt (embargoed) so that we can see
exactly what they propose to cover. Even though Ze does a live presser they can
still summarize in a brief statement. Thoughts?
[8/9/ 19, 5: 51:42 PM] Kurt Volker: Agree!
State Department Officials Seek Giulianis Guidance on Ukraine Statement: On
August 9, 2019, after Mr. Giuliani met with President Zelenskys aide Andrey Yerrnak,
Ambassador Volker asked to speak with Mr. Giuliani about the Ukranian statement:
[8/9/ 19, 11:27 AM] Kurt Volker: Hi Mr Mayor! Had a good chat with Yermak
last night. He was pleased with your phone call. Mentioned Z making a statement.
Can we all get on the phone to make sure I advise Z correctly as to what he should
be saying? Want to make sure we get this done right. Thanks!
Gordon Sondland: Good idea Kurt. I am on Pacific time.
Rudy Giuliani: Yes can you call now going to Fundraiser at 12:30
Ukrainian Aide Seeks White House Date First: On August 10, 2019, President
Zelenskys aide, Andrey Yermak, pressed Ambassador Volker for a date for the White
House Visit before committing to a statement announcing an investigation explicitly
referencing the 2016 election and Burisma:
[8/ 10/ 19, 4:56: 15 PM] Andrey Yermak: Hi Kurt. Please let me know when you
can talk. I think its possible to make this declaration and mention all these things.
Which we discussed yesterday. But it will be logic to do after we receive a
confirmation of date. We inform about date of visit and about our expectations
and our giarantees for future Visit. Let discuss it
[8/10/19, 5:01 :32 PM] Kurt Volker: 0k! Its late for youwhy dont we talk in
my morning, your afternoon tomorrow? Say 10am/5pm?
[8/1 0/ 19, 5:02:18 PM] Kurt Volker: I agree with your approach. Lets iron out
statement and use that to get date and then PreZ can go forward with it?
[8/10/19, 5:26:17 PM] Andrey Yennak: Ok
[8/10/19, 5:38:43 PM] Kurt Volker: Great. Gordon is available to join as well
[8/10/19, 5:41 :45 PM] Andrey Yermak: Excellent
[8/10/ 19, 5:42: 10 PM] Andrey Yermak: Once we have a date, will call for a press
briefing, announcing upcoming visit and outlining vision for the reboot of US-
UKRAINE relationship, including among other things Burisma and election
meddling in investigations
[8/10/19, 5:42:30 PM] Kurt Volker: Sounds great!
Discussion of Ukrainian Statement to Include References to 2016 Election and
Burisma: Following the August 9, 2019, outreach to Rudy Giuliani, Ambassador Volker
and Ambassador Sondland on August 13, 2019, had following exchange regarding the
proposed Ukrainian statement:
[8/ 13/ 1 9, 10:26:44 AM] Kurt Volker: Special attention should be paid to the
problem of interference in the political processes of the United States especially
with the alleged involvement of some Ukrainian politicians. I want to declare that
this is unacceptable. We intend to initiate and complete a transparent and
unbiased investigation of all available facts and episodes, including those
involving Burisma and the 2016 U.S. elections, which in turn will prevent the
recurrence of this problem in the future.
[8/ 13/ 19, 10:27:20 AM] Gordon Sondland: Perfect. Lets send to Andrey after our
call
Confirming Desire to Reference 2016 Election and Burisma: On August 17, 2019,
Ambassadors Volker and Sondland had the following exchange in which they discussed
their message to Ukraine:
[8/ 17/ 19, 3:06:19 PM] Gordon Sondland: Do we still want Ze to give us an
unequivocal draft with 2016 and Boresrna?
[8/17/19, 4:34:21 PM] Kurt Volker: Thats the clear message so far
[8/ 1 7/ 19, 4:34:39 PM] Kurt Volker: Im hoping we can put something out there
that causes him to respond with that
[8/17/19, 4:41 :09 PM] Gordon Sondland: Unless you think otherwise I will return
Andreys call tomorrow and suggest they send us a clean draft.
Ukrainian Official Shares Press Report of U.S. Withholdimw Military Assistance:
On August 28, President Zelenskys aide, Andrey Yermak, texted Ambassador Volker a
news story entitled, Trump Holds Up Ukraine Military Aid Meant to Confront Russia:
[8/29/ 19, 2:28:19 AM] Andrey Yermak: Need to talk with you
{8/29/19, 3:06:14 AM] Andrey Yennak:
https://www.politico.com/st01y/2019/08/28/trump-ukraine-mi1itary-aid-russia
1689531
[8/29/19, 6:55:04 AM] Kurt Volker: Hi Andrey absolutely. When is good for
you?
President Trump Cancels Trip to Meet President Zelenskv: On August 30,
Ambassador Taylor informed Ambassador Volker that President Trump had canceled his
planned Visit to Warsaw, Poland, where he was to meet with President Zelensky.
Ambassadors Volker and Sondland discussed an alternative plan for Vice President
Pence to meet with President Zelensky on September 1:
[8/30/19, 12:14:57 AM] Bill Taylor: Trip canceled
[8/3 0/19, 12:16:02 AM] Kurt Volker: Hope VPOTUS keeps the bilat 4 and tees
up WH visit. ..
[8/30/19, 12:16:18 AM] Kurt Volker: And hope Gordon and Perry still going...
[8/30/19, 5:31:14 AM] Gordon Sondland: I am going. Pompeo is speaking to
Potus today to see if he can go.
On September 1, Ambassador Taylor sought clarification of the requirements for a White
House visit:
[9/ 1/ 19, 12:08:57 PM] Bill Taylor: Are we now saying that security assistance
and WH meeting are conditioned on investigations?
[9/1/19, 12:42:29 PM] Gordon Sondland: Call me
State Department Officials on Security Assistance and the Ukraine Interview: On
September 8, Ambassador Taylor, Ambassador Sondland, and Ambassador Volker had
the following exchange:
[9/8/19, 11:20:32 AM] Gordon Sondland: Guys multiple convos with Ze, Potus,
Lets talk
[9/8/19, 1 1:21:41 AM] Bill Taylor: Now is fine with me
[9/8/19, 1 1:26:13 AM] Kurt Volker: Try againcould not hear
[9/8/ 19, 11:40:1 1 AM] Bill Taylor: Gordon and I just spoke. I can brief you if you
and Gordon dont connect
[9/8/ 19, 12:37:28 PM] Bill Taylor: The nightmare is they give the interview and
dont get the security assistance. The Russians love it. (And I quit.)
0 State Degartment Officials on Withholding Securig Assistance: On September 9,
2019, Ambassador Taylor and Ambassador Sondland had the following exchange
regarding the withholding of military assistance to Ukraine:
[9/9/ 19, 12:31:06 AM] Bill Taylor: The message to the Ukrainians (and Russians)
we send with the decision on security assistance is key. With the hold, we have
already shaken their faith in us. Thus my nightmare scenario.
[9/9/19, 12:34:44 AM] Bill Taylor: Counting on you to be right about this
interview, Gordon.
[9/9/ 19, 12:37:16 AM] Gordon Sondland: Bill, [never said I was right. I said
we are where we are and believe we have identified the best pathway forward.
Lets hope it works.
[9/9/19, 12:47: 11 AM] Bill Taylor: As I said on the phone, I think its crazy to
withhold security assistance for help with a political campaign:
[9/9/ 19, 5:19:35 AM] Gordon Sondland: Bill, Ibelieve you are incorrect about
President Trumps intentions. The President has been crystal clear no quid pro
quos of any kind. The President is trying to evaluate whether Ukraine is truly
going to adopt the transparency and reforms that President Zelensky promised
during his campaign I suggest we stop the back and forth by text If you still have
concerns I recommend you give Lisa Kenna or S a call to discuss them directly.
Thanks.
Members of the Intelligence, Oversight and Reform, and Foreign Affairs Committees
Washington, D.C. 20515
Dear Colleagues:
We are writing to convey our grave concerns with the unprecedented actions of President
Donald Trump and his Administration with respect to the House of Representatives
impeachment inquiry.
The President and his aides are engaging in a campaign of misinformation and
misdirection in an attempt to normalize the act of soliciting foreign powers to interfere in our
elections.
We have all now seen the summary of the call in which President Trump repeatedly
urged the Ukrainian President to launch an investigation into former Vice President Joe Biden
immediately after the Ukrainian President mentioned critical U.S. military assistance to counter
Russian aggression.
The President claims he did nothing wrong. Even more astonishing, he is now openly
and publicly asking another foreign powerChinato launch its own sham investigation
against the Bidens to further his own political aims.
This is not normal or acceptable. It is unethical, unpatriotic, and wrong. American
Presidents should never press foreign powers to target their domestic political rivals. Engaging
in these stunning abuses in broad daylight does not absolve President Trump of his
wrongdoingswr his grave offenses against the Constitution.
Over the past week, new repoxts have revealed that other Trump Administration officials
also may have been involved in the illicit effort to get Ukrainian help for the Presidents
campaign.
For example, Secretary of State Mike Pompeo has now admitted that he was on the call
when President Trump explicitly pressed the Ukrainian President to investigate the Bidens
but failed to report this to the FBI or other law enforcement authorities. You will recall, FBI
Director Christopher Wray urged individuals to report efforts to seek or receive help from a
foreign power that may intervene in a U.S. presidential election.
This obligation is not diminished when the instigator of that foreign intervention is the
President of the United States; it is all the more crucial to the security of our elections. Instead,
when asked by the media about his own knowledge or participation in the call, Secretary
Pompeo dissembled.
PRINTED ON RECYCLED PAPER
Likewise, we are investigating reports that Vice President Mike Pence may have been
made aware of the contents of the call, and his absence from the Ukrainian Presidents
inauguration may have been related to efforts to put additional pressure on Ukraine to deliver on
the Presidents demands,
This week, current and former State Department officials have begun cooperating with
the impeachment inquiry by producing documents and scheduling interviews and depositions.
Based on the first production of materials, it has become immediately apparent why Secretary
Pompeo tried to block these officials from providing information.
The Committees have now obtained text messages from Ambassador Kurt Volker, the
former Special Representative for Ukraine Negotiations, communicating with other officials,
including William B. Bill Taylor, the Charge dAffaires at the U.S. Embassy in Ukraine,
Gordon Sondland, the U.S. Ambassador to the European Union, Andrey Yermak, Aide to
Ukrainian President Zelensky, the Presidents agent Rudy Giuliani, and others.
These text messages reflect serious concerns raised by a State Department official about
the detrimental effects of withholding critical military assistance from Ukraine, and the
importance of setting up a meeting between President Trump and the Ukrainian President
without further delay, He also directly expressed concerns that this critical military assistance
and the meeting between the two presidents were being withheld in order to place additienal
pressure 011 Ukraine to deliver on the Presidents demand for Ukraine to launch politically
motivated investigations
Earlier today, selected portions of these texts were leaked to the press out of context. In
order to help correct the public record, we are now providing an attachment with more complete
excerpts from the exchanges. The additional excerpts we are providing are still only a subset of
the full body of the materials, which we hope to make public after a review for personally
identifiable information.
Our investigation will continue in the coming days. But we hope every Member of the
House will join us in condemning in the strongest terms the Presidents now open defiance of our
core values as American citizens to guard against foreign interference in our democratic process.
Sincerely,
' /
Eliot L. Engel Adam B. Schiff
Chairman Chairman
House Committee on Foreign Affairs House Permanent Select Committee
on Intelligence
Elijah Ev. Cummings
Chairman
House Committee on Oversight and Reform
ATTACHMEN T
Connecting Rudy Giuliani with Ukraine President Zelenskvs Adviser: On July 19,
Ambassador Volker texted President Trumps agent, Rudy Giuliani, to thank him for
breakfast and to introduce him to Andrey Yermak, a top advisor to President Zelensky:
[7/19/19, 4:48 PM] Kurt Volker: Mr Mayor really enjoyed breakfast this
morning. As discussed, connecting you here with Andrey Yermak, who is very
close to President Zelensky. I suggest we schedule a call together on Monday 4
maybe 10am or 11am Washington time? Kurt
Sondland Briefs Zelenskv Ahead of Call with President Trump: On July 19, 2019,
Ambassador Volker, Ambassador Sondland, and Mr. Taylor had the following exchange
about the specific goal for the upcoming telephone call between President Trump and the
Ukrainian Presicient:
[7/ 19/ 1 9, 4:49:42 PM] Kurt Volker: Can we three do a call tomorrowsay noon
WASHINGTON?
[7/ 19/19, 6:50:29 PM] Gordon Sondland: Looks like Potus call tomorrow. I spike
[sic] directly to Zelensky and gave him a full briefing. Hes got it.
[7/19/19, 6:52:57 PM] Gordon Sondland: Sure!
[7/ 1 9/ 19, 7:01 :22 PM] Kurt Volker: Good. Had breakfast with Rudy this
morningteeing up call w Yennak Monday. Must have helped. Most impt is for
Zelensky to say that he will help investigationwand address any specific
personnel issues4if there are any
Concerns about Ukraine Becoming an Instrument in U.S. Politics: On J uly 21,
2019, Ambassador Taylor flagged President Ze1enskys desire for Ukraine not to be used
by the Trump Administration for its own domestic political purposes:
[7/21/ 19, 1:45:54 AM] Bill Taylor: Gordon, one thing Kurt and I talked about
yesterday was Sasha Danyliuks point that President Zelenskyy is sensitive about
Ukraine being taken seriously, not merely as an instrument in Washington
domestic, reelection politics.
[7/21/19, 4:45:44 AM] Gordon Sondland: Absolutely, but we need to get the
conversation started and the relationship built, irrespective of the pretext. I am
worried about the alternative.
Giuliani Advocates for Trumn-Zelenskv Call: Mr. Yerrnak and Mr. Giuliani agreed to
speak on the morning of July 22. Later that evening, Ambassador Volker informed
Ambassadors Sondland and Taylor that Giuliani was now advocating for a phone call
between President Trump and President Zelensky:
[7/22/19 4:27:55 PM] Kurt Volker: Orchestrated a great phone call w Rudy and
Yermak. They are going to get together when Rudy goes to Madrid in a couple of
weeks.
[7/22/ 19 4:28:08 PM] Kurt Volker: In the meantime Rudy is now advocating for
phone call.
[7/22/ 19 4:28:26 PM] Kurt Volker: I have call into Fionas replacement and will
call Bolton if needed.
[7/22/19 4:28:48 PM Kurt Volker: But I can tell Bolton and you can tell Mick that
Rudy agrees on a call if that helps.
[7/22/ 19 4:30:10 PM] Gordon Sondland: I talked to Tim Morrison Fionas
replacement. He is pushing but feel free as well.
Volker Advises Yermak Ahead of TrumpZelenskv Call: On the morning of July 25,
2019ahead of the planned call between President Trump and President Zelensky
Ambassador Volker advised Andrey Yennak:
[7/25/19, 8:36:45 AM] Kurt Volker: Good lunch ~ thanks. Heard from White
Houseiassuming President Z convinces trump he will investigate / get to the
bottom of what happened in 2016, we will nail down date for visit to
Washington. Good luck! See you tomorrow- kuit
Yermaks Informal Readout of the TrumpZeienskv Call: Following President
Trumps July 25 call, Ambassador Volker received the following readout from Ukrainian
Presidential Adviser Yermak and confirmed his intent to meet Giuliani in Madrid:
[7/25/19, 10:15:06 AM] Andrey Yerrnak: Phone call went well. President Trump
proposed to choose any convenient dates. President Zelenskiy chose 20,21,22
September for the White House Visit. Thank you again for your help! Please
remind Mr. Mayor to share the Madrids dates
[7/25/ 19, 10:16:42 AM] Kurt Volker: Great thanks and will do!
State Department Officials Discuss a White House Visit and Ukraine Statement: On
August 9, 2019, Ambassador Volker had the following exchange with Ambassador
Sondland about arranging a White House meeting after the Ukrainian President makes a
public statement:
[8/9/19, 5: 35:53 PM] Gordon Sondland: Morrison ready to get dates as soon as
Yermak confirms.
[8/9/ 19, 5: 46:21 PM] Kurt Volker: Excellent How did you sway him? 2)
[8/9/ 19, 5: 47:34 PM] Gordon Sondland: Not sure i did. I think potus really wants
the deliverable
[8/9/19, 5: 48:00 PM] Kurt Volker: But does he know that?
[8/9/19, 5: 48:09 PM] Gordon Sondland: Yep
[8/9/ 19, 5: 48:37 PM] Gordon Sondland: Clearly lots of convos going on
[8/9/ 19, 5:48:38 PM] Kurt Volker: Okthen thats good its coming from two
separate sources
[8/9/ 19, 5: 51:18 PM] Gordon Sondland: To avoid misundestandings, might be
helpful to ask Andrey for a draft statememt (embargoed) so that we can see
exactly what they propose to cover. Even though Ze does a live presser they can
still summarize in a brief statement. Thoughts?
[8/9/ 19, 5: 51:42 PM] Kurt Volker: Agree!
State Department Officials Seek Giulianis Guidance on Ukraine Statement: On
August 9, 2019, after Mr. Giuliani met with President Zelenskys aide Andrey Yerrnak,
Ambassador Volker asked to speak with Mr. Giuliani about the Ukranian statement:
[8/9/ 19, 11:27 AM] Kurt Volker: Hi Mr Mayor! Had a good chat with Yermak
last night. He was pleased with your phone call. Mentioned Z making a statement.
Can we all get on the phone to make sure I advise Z correctly as to what he should
be saying? Want to make sure we get this done right. Thanks!
Gordon Sondland: Good idea Kurt. I am on Pacific time.
Rudy Giuliani: Yes can you call now going to Fundraiser at 12:30
Ukrainian Aide Seeks White House Date First: On August 10, 2019, President
Zelenskys aide, Andrey Yermak, pressed Ambassador Volker for a date for the White
House Visit before committing to a statement announcing an investigation explicitly
referencing the 2016 election and Burisma:
[8/ 10/ 19, 4:56: 15 PM] Andrey Yermak: Hi Kurt. Please let me know when you
can talk. I think its possible to make this declaration and mention all these things.
Which we discussed yesterday. But it will be logic to do after we receive a
confirmation of date. We inform about date of visit and about our expectations
and our giarantees for future Visit. Let discuss it
[8/10/19, 5:01 :32 PM] Kurt Volker: 0k! Its late for youwhy dont we talk in
my morning, your afternoon tomorrow? Say 10am/5pm?
[8/1 0/ 19, 5:02:18 PM] Kurt Volker: I agree with your approach. Lets iron out
statement and use that to get date and then PreZ can go forward with it?
[8/10/19, 5:26:17 PM] Andrey Yennak: Ok
[8/10/19, 5:38:43 PM] Kurt Volker: Great. Gordon is available to join as well
[8/10/19, 5:41 :45 PM] Andrey Yermak: Excellent
[8/10/ 19, 5:42: 10 PM] Andrey Yermak: Once we have a date, will call for a press
briefing, announcing upcoming visit and outlining vision for the reboot of US-
UKRAINE relationship, including among other things Burisma and election
meddling in investigations
[8/10/19, 5:42:30 PM] Kurt Volker: Sounds great!
Discussion of Ukrainian Statement to Include References to 2016 Election and
Burisma: Following the August 9, 2019, outreach to Rudy Giuliani, Ambassador Volker
and Ambassador Sondland on August 13, 2019, had following exchange regarding the
proposed Ukrainian statement:
[8/ 13/ 1 9, 10:26:44 AM] Kurt Volker: Special attention should be paid to the
problem of interference in the political processes of the United States especially
with the alleged involvement of some Ukrainian politicians. I want to declare that
this is unacceptable. We intend to initiate and complete a transparent and
unbiased investigation of all available facts and episodes, including those
involving Burisma and the 2016 U.S. elections, which in turn will prevent the
recurrence of this problem in the future.
[8/ 13/ 19, 10:27:20 AM] Gordon Sondland: Perfect. Lets send to Andrey after our
call
Confirming Desire to Reference 2016 Election and Burisma: On August 17, 2019,
Ambassadors Volker and Sondland had the following exchange in which they discussed
their message to Ukraine:
[8/ 17/ 19, 3:06:19 PM] Gordon Sondland: Do we still want Ze to give us an
unequivocal draft with 2016 and Boresrna?
[8/17/19, 4:34:21 PM] Kurt Volker: Thats the clear message so far
[8/ 1 7/ 19, 4:34:39 PM] Kurt Volker: Im hoping we can put something out there
that causes him to respond with that
[8/17/19, 4:41 :09 PM] Gordon Sondland: Unless you think otherwise I will return
Andreys call tomorrow and suggest they send us a clean draft.
Ukrainian Official Shares Press Report of U.S. Withholdimw Military Assistance:
On August 28, President Zelenskys aide, Andrey Yermak, texted Ambassador Volker a
news story entitled, Trump Holds Up Ukraine Military Aid Meant to Confront Russia:
[8/29/ 19, 2:28:19 AM] Andrey Yermak: Need to talk with you
{8/29/19, 3:06:14 AM] Andrey Yennak:
https://www.politico.com/st01y/2019/08/28/trump-ukraine-mi1itary-aid-russia
1689531
[8/29/19, 6:55:04 AM] Kurt Volker: Hi Andrey absolutely. When is good for
you?
President Trump Cancels Trip to Meet President Zelenskv: On August 30,
Ambassador Taylor informed Ambassador Volker that President Trump had canceled his
planned Visit to Warsaw, Poland, where he was to meet with President Zelensky.
Ambassadors Volker and Sondland discussed an alternative plan for Vice President
Pence to meet with President Zelensky on September 1:
[8/30/19, 12:14:57 AM] Bill Taylor: Trip canceled
[8/3 0/19, 12:16:02 AM] Kurt Volker: Hope VPOTUS keeps the bilat 4 and tees
up WH visit. ..
[8/30/19, 12:16:18 AM] Kurt Volker: And hope Gordon and Perry still going...
[8/30/19, 5:31:14 AM] Gordon Sondland: I am going. Pompeo is speaking to
Potus today to see if he can go.
On September 1, Ambassador Taylor sought clarification of the requirements for a White
House visit:
[9/ 1/ 19, 12:08:57 PM] Bill Taylor: Are we now saying that security assistance
and WH meeting are conditioned on investigations?
[9/1/19, 12:42:29 PM] Gordon Sondland: Call me
State Department Officials on Security Assistance and the Ukraine Interview: On
September 8, Ambassador Taylor, Ambassador Sondland, and Ambassador Volker had
the following exchange:
[9/8/19, 11:20:32 AM] Gordon Sondland: Guys multiple convos with Ze, Potus,
Lets talk
[9/8/19, 1 1:21:41 AM] Bill Taylor: Now is fine with me
[9/8/19, 1 1:26:13 AM] Kurt Volker: Try againcould not hear
[9/8/ 19, 11:40:1 1 AM] Bill Taylor: Gordon and I just spoke. I can brief you if you
and Gordon dont connect
[9/8/ 19, 12:37:28 PM] Bill Taylor: The nightmare is they give the interview and
dont get the security assistance. The Russians love it. (And I quit.)
0 State Degartment Officials on Withholding Securig Assistance: On September 9,
2019, Ambassador Taylor and Ambassador Sondland had the following exchange
regarding the withholding of military assistance to Ukraine:
[9/9/ 19, 12:31:06 AM] Bill Taylor: The message to the Ukrainians (and Russians)
we send with the decision on security assistance is key. With the hold, we have
already shaken their faith in us. Thus my nightmare scenario.
[9/9/19, 12:34:44 AM] Bill Taylor: Counting on you to be right about this
interview, Gordon.
[9/9/ 19, 12:37:16 AM] Gordon Sondland: Bill, [never said I was right. I said
we are where we are and believe we have identified the best pathway forward.
Lets hope it works.
[9/9/19, 12:47: 11 AM] Bill Taylor: As I said on the phone, I think its crazy to
withhold security assistance for help with a political campaign:
[9/9/ 19, 5:19:35 AM] Gordon Sondland: Bill, Ibelieve you are incorrect about
President Trumps intentions. The President has been crystal clear no quid pro
quos of any kind. The President is trying to evaluate whether Ukraine is truly
going to adopt the transparency and reforms that President Zelensky promised
during his campaign I suggest we stop the back and forth by text If you still have
concerns I recommend you give Lisa Kenna or S a call to discuss them directly.
Thanks.
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Roland99
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That's a damned good question -- unless it's just threat the orange fat ass will go ballistic if
KPN
Oct 2019
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stuffmatters
Oct 2019
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They've taken certain snippets many times and tried to use it as proof of nothing
Roland99
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Freethinker65
Oct 2019
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Freethinker65
Oct 2019
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Nevermypresident
Oct 2019
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onetexan
Oct 2019
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