Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News Editorials & Other Articles General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

flamingdem

(39,992 posts)
56. Here's something about the North South conflict moving into the Civil war
Mon Sep 3, 2012, 04:33 PM
Sep 2012
http://www.journalofamericanhistory.org/projects/lincoln/contents/grinspan.html

These feelings have been around a LONG time.

---

“Young Men for War”: The Wide Awakes and Lincoln’s 1860 Presidential Campaign

A band of “sleepy Gotham politicians” gathered in a Manhattan tavern late one evening in 1860. It was a windy Thursday night, and the atmosphere inside the dimly lit establishment was subdued. The bosses ordered ale and settled into a lazy debate about the usual political topics. They cursed the Republican party, analyzed their presidential ticket, and worried about the possibility of secession, all while getting steadily drunker in the cozy tavern.

They first heard the noise around midnight. From uptown came the clash of a marching band followed by the advancing tread of hundreds of boots on the cobblestones of the Bowery. Soon the stench of burning oil filled their nostrils, and the tavern’s dark windows began to glow from the outside. Tipsy and curious, the insiders spilled out onto the street to join a throng of dazed New Yorkers. There they watched as large formations of young men, clad in shimmering black capes and soldiers’ caps, came stomping down the middle of their island. Each bore a blazing torch, and none said a word. Pushing through the crowd, the sobered politicians shouted, “Who are these Wide Awakes?”[1]

The march that shook New York was one of thousands that poured through America’s cities, towns, and villages in 1860, started by a revolutionary new political organization. Stumping for the Republican candidate, Abraham Lincoln, the strange movement electrified the presidential election. Young men from Bangor to San Francisco and from huge Philadelphia clubs to tiny Iowa troupes donned uniforms, lit torches, and “fell in” to pseudomilitary marching companies. They flooded every northern state and trickled into upper South cities like Baltimore, Wheeling, and St. Louis. Launched in March by “five young dry goods clerks” in Hartford, Connecticut, by November the Wide Awakes had developed into a nationwide grassroots movement with hundreds of thousands of members. Many of the movement’s supporters—and even some of its vociferous opponents—believed “there never was, in this country, a more effective campaign organization than the Wide Awakes.”[2]

---



The militarism of the Wide Awakes helps explain how the election of Lincoln sparked the Civil War. Historians have long pondered the missing link between the complex politics of the 1850s and the war. It is difficult to believe that the Civil War could have erupted as a popular conflict—with hundreds of thousands of excited volunteers—unless political debates were transformed into larger cultural motivators. The Wide Awakes enabled that transformation. The movement’s dangerous use of militarism for political purposes unintentionally bled into powerful cultural agitation that terrified southerners. Young northerners equipped with uniforms and torches sent an ominous message to those already apprehensive about the Republican party’s antisouthern attitudes. While certainly not a cause of the war, the Wide Awakes’ presence ratcheted up sectional pressure and invested Lincoln’s election with weighty significance. Understanding how the organization worked helps connect the political and military campaigns.

Though observers felt “the future historian” should devote “one of his most glowing chapters” to the movement, few historians have asked, “Who are these Wide Awakes?” No scholar has recently offered an appraisal of the organization, and former Wide Awakes penned the most in-depth analyses of their club over a century ago. Those accounts contained valuable recollections, but the authors remembered their militarism through the prism of the Civil War as a prediction of the approaching conflict. Since then, the Wide Awakes have appeared as little more than campaign color in the classic accounts of the 1860 election by David Potter, Allan Nevins, and Roy Nichols. Works on Lincoln’s election may sketch a Wide Awake parade, but none truly examines the movement.[5]

The “future historian” has never appeared, and studies of the 1860 election have tended to follow a standard narrative, detailing Lincoln’s fight for the Republican nomination, his summer of quiet seclusion in Springfield, and his predictable victory in November. Such accounts affirm Lincoln’s humble calm in contrast to the terrible chaos that would consume the rest of his life. Yet if we hope to understand Lincoln’s presidency or the coming of the Civil War, we cannot fast-forward through the 1860 campaign. Lincoln’s image played a major role, but like most other nineteenth-century presidential candidates, he refused to canvass. Instead, four parties fielded complex campaign machines in a vicious public battle on behalf of their nominees. Scholars focused solely on the lives of great men have not addressed these important partisan mechanisms and cultural forces in detail. The visible, distinctive, and extremely popular Wide Awakes offer a glimpse of the neglected machinery that powered nineteenth-century American democracy. .... more at link

Recommendations

0 members have recommended this reply (displayed in chronological order):

THANK YOU Skittles Sep 2012 #1
It's easy to lose perspective when you think you're being attacked johnlucas Sep 2012 #2
The problem is that SOUTHERNERS need to be doing the correcting... Fawke Em Sep 2012 #27
You SHOULD care. But take your anger out on the ones bringing The South down johnlucas Sep 2012 #36
Yes they do, but we both know they won't and we both know why. And until Y'all stop raising your Egalitarian Thug Sep 2012 #44
OK a million and one props to all the DUers in the red states K8-EEE Sep 2012 #3
We have the "John Birchers" out here (they quit calling themselves that, though) SoCalDem Sep 2012 #50
I grew up in Alabama Scootaloo Sep 2012 #4
it wasn't a long time ago when Texas WAS a blue state... rppper Sep 2012 #6
That was back when the racists had not yet fully left the Democratic Party. Odin2005 Sep 2012 #17
Thank you for this... BeeBee Sep 2012 #5
That's rightly so, johnlucas Jack Sprat Sep 2012 #7
1948 & 1964 is what changed johnlucas Sep 2012 #25
I do not even engage with them. Manifestor_of_Light Sep 2012 #8
Hmm .. but what about my vote here in Georgia? YOHABLO Sep 2012 #9
Ah yes, that stupid argument. Zoeisright Sep 2012 #13
Can you respect that the South is my home? Llewlladdwr Sep 2012 #10
the MAJORITY of people in your "home" are racist pieces of shit scheming daemons Sep 2012 #21
No they're not. Fawke Em Sep 2012 #29
Radio is a BIG reason why it continues johnlucas Sep 2012 #46
I have said the same thing MuseRider Sep 2012 #47
Disagree. area51 Sep 2012 #11
Guilty. Hulk Sep 2012 #12
Locking. UnrepentantLiberal Sep 2012 #14
Unlocking thread. UnrepentantLiberal Sep 2012 #15
That Birtherism is concentrated in the South tells me everything... Odin2005 Sep 2012 #16
Riiight. Orly Taitz is CA. Trump's in New York. DirkGently Sep 2012 #18
Read my post about The Southern Strategy johnlucas Sep 2012 #45
Bingo TroglodyteScholar Sep 2012 #19
There is a flaw in your rationalization of South bashing aikoaiko Sep 2012 #20
That tactic is the calling card of crappy call-out rhetoric here. DirkGently Sep 2012 #24
A better way of direction. Jack Sprat Sep 2012 #55
We're closer than before, sure, but it's still a major problem johnlucas Sep 2012 #26
I whole-heartedly disagree. Fawke Em Sep 2012 #30
Let me know when it's 75% or more in any Northern state. dawg Sep 2012 #33
Well good point but here's a few that approach that number johnlucas Sep 2012 #41
It's wrong to single out any one region. dawg Sep 2012 #43
While recognizing that there are certainly progressive sufrommich Sep 2012 #22
Yes! There is a very good reason that "exceptional southerners" are considered to be...exceptional Tom Ripley Sep 2012 #32
That apparently took nearly 30 years to work. Fawke Em Sep 2012 #39
It goes back further than that, Fawke. Jack Sprat Sep 2012 #51
Here is a position with a longer history of the southern strategy Jack Sprat Sep 2012 #53
The basic problem with all of these threads is that the South is not monolithic. alarimer Sep 2012 #23
And never has been Adsos Letter Sep 2012 #28
True. So people should consider making an honest active commitment to "small" again. nt patrice Sep 2012 #34
And yet my relative moved to NC with her dark skinned cuban boyfriend and was accosted repeatedly. progressivebydesign Sep 2012 #38
Love this!!! One thing: Changing the South "as a whole", if that's what we are waiting for before patrice Sep 2012 #31
Yes you must work within your circle of influence before anything else johnlucas Sep 2012 #57
It's all way overwhelming when you look at the whole thing. Need to start believing in small things patrice Sep 2012 #58
Oh, and one more thing...: Aristus Sep 2012 #35
We do call it out and make fun of it. Fawke Em Sep 2012 #40
Thank you. Keep up the good work. Aristus Sep 2012 #48
I respect that Fawke Em. Thank you johnlucas Sep 2012 #49
Beautifully put!! I'm on the West Coast and don't take insults about it personally. progressivebydesign Sep 2012 #37
Gotta tell ya, a huge amount of the people in my part of the south originated in the NORTH. 1monster Sep 2012 #42
Sad. How is it not bigoted to bash an entire region? Skip Intro Sep 2012 #52
Why are you taking it personally? We're calling out the bigoted mentality not the region johnlucas Sep 2012 #59
Since our efforts were futile last night Jack Sprat Sep 2012 #54
I think I missed the importance of 1968 & RFK johnlucas Sep 2012 #60
Here's something about the North South conflict moving into the Civil war flamingdem Sep 2012 #56
Charlotte NC and Boston MA cwydro Sep 2012 #61
Latest Discussions»General Discussion»Message to Llewlladdwr &a...»Reply #56