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Hortensis

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6. THIS. But RUSSIA's part is the huge issue. Ukraine, military control
Thu Nov 7, 2019, 08:36 AM
Nov 2019

of the Middle East. Putin's plan for invading and taking over all the breakaway states from the prior SovUn.

In 2017 Trump was reportedly seeking a "grand bargain" with Russia, but of course it started well before with Putin and Trump. Before he was ever elected, analysts of repute could think of no honest reason Trump would be supporting Putin so strongly and wondered openly if he'd been compromised or..

In 2018, the New Yorker reported that Saudi, Emirati nations, and Israel under its far-right government, wanted Trump to give Ukraine to Russia in a "grand bargain." These nations encouraged Trump's betrayal of us and our allies to Russia, and of course we see what's since happening with Syria, the Kurds, Ukraine, broken Iran nuclear deal, and much more.

Haaretz: “Ron Dermer, the Israeli Ambassador to the United States and one of Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s closest confidants, said that the Israeli government was encouraging the incoming Trump Administration to coöperate more closely with Putin, starting in Syria, with the hope of convincing Moscow to push the Iranians to leave the country. ... Like M.B.Z., Netanyahu made courting Putin a priority, particularly after Russia’s military intervention in Syria in 2015.”

“Separately, a former U.S. official recalled having a conversation after Trump’s Inauguration with an Israeli Cabinet minister with close ties to Netanyahu in which the minister pitched the American on the idea of “trading Ukraine for Syria.” The former official told me, “You can understand why Russia’s help with Syria is a far higher priority for Israel than pushing back on Russian aggression in Ukraine.”


You know, whatever our orange clown puppet hoped to get out of this is NOTHING, a curiosity, to what he's trying to give away. Putin plans a new world order, with the U.S. a broken democracy and Russia and China as the superpowers, China of course only because Putin has no choice.
That's a breathtaking revelation sop Nov 2019 #1
Yeah but lots of us already knew this. triron Nov 2019 #12
Yeah, it's shocking to see this as sworn congressional testimony from Trump's own guy sop Nov 2019 #17
Trump Tower Moscow Hermit-The-Prog Nov 2019 #2
''to help himself'' and Putin Lock him up. Nov 2019 #3
It's out in the open now OAITW r.2.0 Nov 2019 #4
Speaker Pelosi: All roads lead to Putin Botany Nov 2019 #5
THIS. But RUSSIA's part is the huge issue. Ukraine, military control Hortensis Nov 2019 #6
This wider angle view of the tRump-putin-ukraine-syria nexus Mersky Nov 2019 #13
At least it's afternoon, not late at night. Hortensis Nov 2019 #14
LOL Mersky Nov 2019 #15
"What has gone wrong since" yesterday. Yes. Hortensis Nov 2019 #16
Makes a lot of sense Baked Potato Nov 2019 #7
There's absolutely no question about this. All that's lacking at this point is iron-clad proof. KPN Nov 2019 #8
yes. dems should start talking about it. a lot. this guy is compromised. nt wiggs Nov 2019 #9
OF COURSE he's in bed with the Russians. Get it into public hearings, even if circumstantial and wiggs Nov 2019 #10
K&R Mersky Nov 2019 #11
I imagine it's something like Trump will do everything Vlad tells him to BuffaloJackalope Nov 2019 #18
So, the "Expert Community" was wondering about this, but there's no evidence. maxsolomon Nov 2019 #19
Weakening national security should be a major talking point. Garrett78 Nov 2019 #20
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