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csziggy

(34,133 posts)
25. My memory from the self defense course is that help or rape does NOT get a response
Tue May 5, 2020, 08:12 AM
May 2020

But FIRE does, or did back then.

I believe it is called the Kitty Genovese or Bystander Effect. Unless an event will affect people personally, if there are other witnesses, they don't response to a need for help. A fire will affect everyone in the vicinity while a call for help or rape does not threaten someone who does not respond.


Bystander Effect

What Is the Bystander Effect?

The bystander effect occurs when the presence of others discourages an individual from intervening in an emergency situation. The greater the number of bystanders, the less likely it is for any one of them to provide help to a person in distress. People are more likely to take action in a crisis when there are few or no other witnesses present.

Social psychologists Bibb Latané and John Darley popularized the concept of the bystander effect following the infamous murder of Kitty Genovese in New York City in 1964. The 28-year-old woman was stabbed to death outside her apartment, neighbors failed to step in to assist or call the police. Latané and Darley attributed the bystander effect to the perceived diffusion of responsibility (onlookers are less likely to intervene if there are other witnesses who seem likely to do so) and social influence (individuals monitor the behavior of those around them to determine how to act).

How To Be An Active Bystander

The social and behavioral paralysis described by the bystander effect can be reduced with awareness and in some cases explicit training. Secondary schools and college campuses encourage students to speak up when witnessing an act of bullying or a potential assault. One technique is to act as if one is the first or only person witnessing a problem. Often when one person take action, if only to shout, "Hey what's going on?" or "The police are coming," others may be emboldened to take action as well. That said, an active bystander is most effective when they assume that they themselves are the sole person taking charge; giving direction to other bystanders to assist can therefore be critically important.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/basics/bystander-effect


Also, see: https://study.com/academy/lesson/defining-the-bystander-effect-kitty-genovese-murder-research-by-latane-and-darley.html

While some recent studies in other countries show a different crowd psychologies outside of the USA, at the time I took the self defense course in the 1970s, this WAS the advice given women.

I wish she would have kicked his ass. irisblue May 2020 #1
IMO he can go die!!! Tired of these F'en people. RKP5637 May 2020 #2
A security guard was spit on and then shot and killed for telling a woman she needed to wear a mask Siwsan May 2020 #3
I would probably be arrested for assault if someone tried that. Initech May 2020 #4
Simpler - I would scream as if I were being raped csziggy May 2020 #5
Wiping his nose on her clothing is battery. Doremus May 2020 #14
I would do the same Leith May 2020 #17
Why on earth would you suggest someone lie? dickthegrouch May 2020 #20
My memory from the self defense course is that help or rape does NOT get a response csziggy May 2020 #25
WTF is it with Dollar Tree, has to have the most deplorable customers on earth. BamaRefugee May 2020 #6
Did she call the police? Boomerproud May 2020 #7
She did. They are trying to ID him. Voltaire2 May 2020 #10
Hammer Time for that fucker. LuckyCharms May 2020 #8
That's assault, and fucker needs to be in jail. TDale313 May 2020 #9
What the HELL is the matter with people like this? 3catwoman3 May 2020 #11
That is assault Hekate May 2020 #12
... and battery, and (possibly) with a deadly weapon, and likely terroristic threatening. Hermit-The-Prog May 2020 #23
Totally disgusting. I'll be staying close to home as much as I can. badhair77 May 2020 #13
This message was self-deleted by its author TreadSoftly May 2020 #15
Tasers will stop this fucking shit. Ferrets are Cool May 2020 #16
Find him. Does he have a wife, mother, sisters, daughters? keithbvadu2 May 2020 #18
Anyone who tries that with me is getting pummelled Drahthaardogs May 2020 #19
Are we sure the tainted water was only in Flint? ecstatic May 2020 #21
Noticed it was a woman he did this to. Coward. GulfCoast66 May 2020 #22
They like to pick on elderly people, too. Mariana May 2020 #24
He's lucky he didn't get an elbow to the face. GoCubsGo May 2020 #26
Reminds me of the thugs at my workplace. Buckeye_Democrat May 2020 #27
Found an update on the put who wiped his face on the female security guard clothing irisblue May 2020 #28
Good news! I hope they throw the book at him. nt crickets May 2020 #30
He's been arrested. nt tblue37 May 2020 #29
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