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In reply to the discussion: Four things to remind your Republican friends about when they're blathering about the Middle East. [View all]MattSh
(3,714 posts)9. Or maybe, just maybe, you can counter their lies with some FACTS?
Or maybe at least supply links that support what you say?
OK, lets counter #1.
From http://businessafrica.net/africabiz/arcvol2/email123.php
First of all, education is free in Libya, from kinder gardens to university. 270,000 university's students pay a tiny annual fee of US$9 (yes nine!) to have access to an university education system, that is endowed with huge libraries, and research departments in all kinds of knowledge equipped to the existing highest international standard.
Second, water and electricity are free for Libyan citizens. The regime have invested billion to bring aquifer freshwater from southern Libya's desert to the coastal regions where the populations are concentrated. The Man Made River is a worldwide acclaimed achievement that would stand as a testimony to Gaddafi's huge contribution to the economic developing of Libya
It is worth noticing that the cost of the project (in excess of US$35billions) had been exclusively financed by Libya's Central/Reserve Bank, without borrowing a cent from abroad. That kept the cost of building at check - contrary to the dogma that money should be borrowed from abroad to implement projects in emerging countries in order to keep inflation down.
and ...
As brilliantly demonstrated by Walter Rodney, Africa had been, and still is economically exploited to remain a subsidiary client to the economic powers of the day. Everything is done, through astutely implemented economic, political and financial policies, to keep the continent as a consumer of imported expensive goods, and remaining provider of cheap soft commodities and mineral raw materials.
Projects's financing are granted to African countries at conditions that not only increase sovereign debt load, but also most of the times, under strict procedural disbursement rules, that delay the implementation of vital infrastructure, in telecommunications, roads's development, agriculture and industries expansion.
Now, let's move on to #2. From http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2011/02/05/142288/reagan-centennial/
Bin Laden would not have been possible without Reagan. How the hell you can say Reagan was out to get him is beyond all facts, and all possible interpretation of the facts.
Reagan helped create the Taliban and Osama Bin Laden. Reagan fought a proxy war with the Soviet Union by training, arming, equipping, and funding Islamist mujahidin fighters in Afghanistan. Reagan funneled billions of dollars, along with top-secret intelligence and sophisticated weaponry to these fighters through the Pakistani intelligence service. The Talbian and Osama Bin Laden a prominent mujahidin commander emerged from these mujahidin groups Reagan helped create, and U.S. policy towards Pakistan remains strained because of the intelligence services close relations to these fighters. In fact, Reagans decision to continue the proxy war after the Soviets were willing to retreat played a direct role in Bin Ladens ascendancy.
Hey, who knows? Maybe the others can be countered too. But I've got other things to do right now.
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Four things to remind your Republican friends about when they're blathering about the Middle East. [View all]
TrollBuster9090
Sep 2012
OP
Something that people don't know about the Grenada invasion, is that troops were being moved into
braddy
Sep 2012
#1
Well, I guess rule number one of war chickenhawkism is to always make sure you're fighting somebody
TrollBuster9090
Sep 2012
#6
Other than that I think we could do better than the Clinton advisors on economic issues,
JDPriestly
Sep 2012
#2
Great summary, TrollBuster9090! REALLY good. Like the way you listed them, too.
calimary
Sep 2012
#3
Thanks! And it's important for us to remember that, while Bush is an easy target, it wasn't Bush
TrollBuster9090
Sep 2012
#4