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EndlessWire

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53. I agree.

Sat Jun 6, 2020, 03:37 PM

Jun 2020

But, this has been known for a good long while, with the same results. Bad cops survive while the victims do not. We need a definitive, wide-sweeping, no nonsense change in our police that has to be forced on them. It has to be forced because they have failed to do it themselves.

I just don't think that defunding training is the way to go. I think we need new Federal rules coupled with new requirements and Federal funding that can be pulled for any incidence of downright murder by a cop. Plus, I love the idea of cop insurance that they have to pay for themselves. A new type of license to qualify for, or something. Some kind of educational requirement? Something.

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I don't think this is the way to go. [View all] EndlessWire Jun 2020 OP

it feels knee-jerk to me Archetypist Jun 2020 #1

"Defunding" means that I'm not going to pay somebody RiverbendsJoe Jun 2020 #2

Don't make it personal. EndlessWire Jun 2020 #27

It is personal. And you're not in charge of the conversation. RiverbendsJoe Jun 2020 #48

Your reply is an example EndlessWire Jun 2020 #51

It also means you won't be paying someone to find your daughter's rapist jcmaine72 Jun 2020 #42

Don't have a daughter, grandmas are dead. RiverbendsJoe Jun 2020 #49

Can't Agree...They've Been Killing Black People Way Before The WH Menace Me. Jun 2020 #3

The Institutions CAN be changed. EndlessWire Jun 2020 #28

I Am Not Advocating Getting Along Without Police, No One Is Me. Jun 2020 #46

I agree. EndlessWire Jun 2020 #53

We probably need a police force in some form. I like the idea of removing all federal funds if Doremus Jun 2020 #4

You need to weed out the white supremacist somehow. cayugafalls Jun 2020 #5

White supremacists and arrogant assholes. I don't want to de-fund the police departments, BComplex Jun 2020 #13

My thought is that if the FBI monitors these groups and knew they were infiltrating cayugafalls Jun 2020 #14

Decades haven't done it. We need it NOW. We need it yesterday. BComplex Jun 2020 #15

I understand what you are saying. cayugafalls Jun 2020 #16

I know. I'm listening to MSNBC right now, and so many chiefs of police are really trying to get it BComplex Jun 2020 #26

The police system itself is built on white supremacy. WhiskeyGrinder Jun 2020 #17

No argument here. I know it's history. cayugafalls Jun 2020 #19

I think it has to be abolished and we look at other models to keep our communities safe. WhiskeyGrinder Jun 2020 #20

To expand on your example, racism is endemic to the entire culture of America. cayugafalls Jun 2020 #24

Defunding is not a dirty word. FM123 Jun 2020 #6

This MoonlitKnight Jun 2020 #9

Exactly. Just like we need to defund the military... nt Blasphemer Jun 2020 #11

"We need these guys on OUR side." WhiskeyGrinder Jun 2020 #7

Well, who do you think?? EndlessWire Jun 2020 #29

Cop brutality happened before Trump, and it will continue to happen after as long as the current WhiskeyGrinder Jun 2020 #43

It's a practical matter. EndlessWire Jun 2020 #54

"I'd rather have a cop on my side who will look the other way if I'm being naughty in defense of my WhiskeyGrinder Jun 2020 #55

I doubt the word "defund" is going to get much traction, from VP Biden or any other major candidate Tommy_Carcetti Jun 2020 #8

I do not paint protesters or police officers saidsimplesimon Jun 2020 #10

Protesters each have a story... tonedevil Jun 2020 #45

The fix is quite simple Mosby Jun 2020 #12

FTP & ACAB Coventina Jun 2020 #18

Clearly you have not been paying attention... EarthFirst Jun 2020 #21

I clearly have been. EndlessWire Jun 2020 #31

It's what we have as leverage Sympthsical Jun 2020 #22

Everything was going relatively well, except for EndlessWire Jun 2020 #33

They probably killed a 75 year old man Sympthsical Jun 2020 #50

I don't agree. The bad ones should be fired. My taxes pay for them rockfordfile Jun 2020 #23

How do we disagree? EndlessWire Jun 2020 #34

I'm thinking cops are like repugs or are repugs. you're not.. Hotler Jun 2020 #25

You could be right. EndlessWire Jun 2020 #37

Cops sometimes take liberties they aren't entitled to, and the FOP of course always wants more money greyl Jun 2020 #30

Then they should be out of a job. n/t EndlessWire Jun 2020 #38

I agree nt Raine Jun 2020 #32

You make whites a minority in the police forces. roamer65 Jun 2020 #35

I disagree. EndlessWire Jun 2020 #39

Hey I'm all for having a well funded police department. Initech Jun 2020 #36

It's difficult EndlessWire Jun 2020 #40

What is needed: new national guidelines for what it takes to get hired as a cop DFW Jun 2020 #41

+1 n/t area51 Jun 2020 #44

Somewhere here on DU EndlessWire Jun 2020 #52

disbanding police depts. has worked in extreme cases bigtree Jun 2020 #47