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wnylib

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45. If you look into the Naxi party a little
Thu Jun 11, 2020, 12:39 PM
Jun 2020

more closely, you will find that Hitler and those closest to him did not believe in Christian theology. But like many people who seek absolute rule, they presented themselves as having God on their side. A bit like extremists everywhere who use religion for political domination, e.g. Trump and evangelicals, and terrorists who use their faith to justify political jihads.

There were 3 Christian leaders known for their opposition to Nazis, and many more unknown ones who worked with them. Martin Niemoller, Lutheran pastor, wrote the well known words "First they came for the Communists...." He was one of 3 men who founded the "confessing church" in opposition to the Nazi ruled "German Christian" church. Pastor Niemoller was arrested and survived 2 concentration camps.

Carl Barth was a German Swiss Reformed church theologian teaching and preaching in Bonn, Germany. He wrote a letter of opposition that he sent to Hitler. Removed from his post, he returned to Switzerland, where he assisted Christians inside Germany in their Nazi opposition.

Dietrich Bonhoeffer was a German Lutheran pastor who opposed Nazis before they came to power. He opposed the Nazi state takeover of Christian churches and founded an emergency program for pastors threatened by Nazis. Ran an underground "seminary" to train opposition clergy. Preached against Nazi euthanasia of "imperfect people" and genocidal attacks on Jews.

Bonhoeffer went to the US in 1939 to avoid conscription in the Nazi army. But he returned because he believed it was his moral duty to stand with the German people in order to lead reconstruction afterward. He was executed in a concentration camp 2 days before liberation.



The ignorant hurts my head PJMcK Jun 2020 #1
The deranged writings of F. A. Hayak tried to paint Fascists as an extreme extension of Socialism. TheBlackAdder Jun 2020 #19
The idea that fascism socialism has wnylib Jun 2020 #32
For the simple-minded, "fascist" simply means "I don't like them"... Silent3 Jun 2020 #26
In fairness genxlib Jun 2020 #2
There's a whole generation of Americans who've been raised to think Hitler was Liberal Johnny2X2X Jun 2020 #15
They'll claim Hitler is an atheist too ... Ligyron Jun 2020 #31
About the logic of claiming Hitler was an atheist. Towlie Jun 2020 #33
I know what you're saying RVN VET71 Jun 2020 #39
Those idiots hear "syllogism" and think it's is some strange new aesthetic belief system. Ligyron Jun 2020 #47
If you look into the Naxi party a little wnylib Jun 2020 #45
I would tell him that Antifa is something LuvNewcastle Jun 2020 #3
I thought it was high school kids playing dressup Blues Heron Jun 2020 #4
Trust me - this is the same guy that's been claiming that Hitler bullwinkle428 Jun 2020 #5
So by that extension all white supremacists are Communists. Historic NY Jun 2020 #40
I had coworkers tell me that Nazis were socialists. Buckeye_Democrat Jun 2020 #6
It's easy to throw a word like "socialist" into the official name luvtheGWN Jun 2020 #35
It's not much of a "republic" when so many of them... Buckeye_Democrat Jun 2020 #36
My neighbor told me they were white supremacists. Says a black cop told her that. SharonClark Jun 2020 #7
And Trump is a moral Christian. keithbvadu2 Jun 2020 #8
The same idiot believes that too liberal N proud Jun 2020 #9
OMFG Ferrets are Cool Jun 2020 #10
Anti is a hard word to understand for pukes. pwb Jun 2020 #11
Words are hard, and stuff. fleur-de-lisa Jun 2020 #12
Facts are pesky things. n/t sarge43 Jun 2020 #18
co-worker gets his info from Breitbart and foxnews I suspect, beachbumbob Jun 2020 #13
Definitely liberal N proud Jun 2020 #14
Or some other blog... Historic NY Jun 2020 #42
Don't waste your time talking to the slavery is freedom crowd bucolic_frolic Jun 2020 #16
That's good enough for me. All the evidence I need IronLionZion Jun 2020 #17
And Republicans are the party of empathy rickford66 Jun 2020 #20
Like calling Nazis left leaning because they have "socialist" in their name... Wounded Bear Jun 2020 #21
Yep, I mentioned that earlier. Buckeye_Democrat Jun 2020 #24
they talk about math literacy. what about history literacy? eShirl Jun 2020 #22
We really need that...nt Wounded Bear Jun 2020 #25
Yes liberal N proud Jun 2020 #27
Sounds like a Fox News-affected brain. marmar Jun 2020 #23
Their go to source for their version of anything liberal N proud Jun 2020 #28
'War Is Peace. Freedom Is Slavery. Ignorance Is Strength'. left-of-center2012 Jun 2020 #29
Yep liberal N proud Jun 2020 #38
Trumpers have been trained to believe tiredtoo Jun 2020 #30
I've had the same conversation with other Republicans as well. Must have been on Fox at some point Joe Nation Jun 2020 #34
Huh! Just look up "antifa" cartoons. Cartoon world is always strongly Hortensis Jun 2020 #37
This is exactly it. maxsolomon Jun 2020 #46
Watched an online-debate with a Flat-Earther the other day... DetlefK Jun 2020 #41
I had the Dentist's assistant tell me the rioters are getting away with destroying America. Ford_Prefect Jun 2020 #43
Doublespeak. cayugafalls Jun 2020 #44
Just like Nazis were Socialists Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jun 2020 #48
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