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PufPuf23

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12. Have little doubt that there is a PDB given to Trump about Russian bounties in Afghanistan
Sun Jun 28, 2020, 07:27 PM
Jun 2020

But bounty or not, Russian bounties do not appear to have had any impact.

Isn't this (financial support to proxies) business as usual and something the USA does as well?

That said I do not dismiss Trump ignoring intelligence and sniffing Putin's anus.

But the fatality facts are:

U.S. fatalities by month in only Afghanistan according to iCasualties.org
Year J F M A M J J A S O N D Total
2001 – – – – – – – – – 2 2 3 7
2002 10 1 9 4 1 3 0 1 0 0 0 1 30
2003 4 1 8 2 1 2 1 4 1 3 6 0 33
2004 9 2 3 1 8 4 2 3 4 5 7 1 49
2005 2 1 5 18 4 26 2 15 11 4 2 3 93
2006 1 7 7 1 11 18 9 10 6 10 7 1 88
2007 0 12 3 8 11 12 13 18 8 9 11 6 111
2008 7 1 7 5 16 28 20 22 27 16 1 3 153
2009 14 15 13 6 12 24 44 51 37 59 17 18 310
2010 30 31 24 19 34 60 65 55 42 60 53 33 496
2011 24 18 29 46 35 47 37 70 42 31 18 15 412
2012 26 10 18 34 39 29 41 39 19 17 16 13 301
2013 3 1 15 13 19 17 11 11 8 9 3 10 120
2014 7 6 0 4 4 13 3 5 5 2 3 3 54
2015 0 0 0 1 1 2 0 3 1 8 0 6 22
2016 3 0 0 0 0 1 0 2 0 3 4 1 14
2017 0 0 1 3 0 3 1 3 2 1 2 1 17
2018 1 0 0 1 0 0 2 1 2 1 5 2 15
2019 2 0 2 3 2 2 3 3 2 0 2 1 22
2020 4 3 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 9

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_military_casualties_in_the_War_in_Afghanistan

Maybe because those other times, our leader wasn't trying to be buddy-buddy with the Russian leader. egduj Jun 2020 #1
Problem I have is that Russia feels free to do so with trump. We've paid to get Russians killed, too Hoyt Jun 2020 #2
because our "president" is Putin's puppet Skittles Jun 2020 #3
I think it's that this time our president AleksS Jun 2020 #4
Because tRump then suggested KT2000 Jun 2020 #5
This is different...and a bounty was put on the heads of Americans and allies...we were Demsrule86 Jun 2020 #6
Is there proof that those sanctions have been enforced? Under The Radar Jun 2020 #7
The point is that other presidents did not reward Russia's bad behavior...Trump allowed Russia Demsrule86 Jun 2020 #9
I am suggestion that the sanctions are superficial Under The Radar Jun 2020 #15
They are not enforcing sanctions. I referred TO Obama Demsrule86 Jun 2020 #18
And whether they were enforced by Trump or not, Obama ordered the sanctions. Demsrule86 Jun 2020 #10
The Obama sanctions were about Ukraine not Syria. former9thward Jun 2020 #14
I'm extraordinarily pissed Cirque du So-What Jun 2020 #8
What changed is that The Commander In Chief Of The Armed Forces Of The United States... Iggo Jun 2020 #11
exactly. it is as though some are trying hard NOT to see the diff SiliconValley_Dem Jun 2020 #21
Have little doubt that there is a PDB given to Trump about Russian bounties in Afghanistan PufPuf23 Jun 2020 #12
What was different is that those were proxy wars, Crunchy Frog Jun 2020 #13
A Bolton move ogsball Jun 2020 #16
We paid Al-Queda and Taliban to kill Russians going clear back to Carters presidency.... IowaGuy Jun 2020 #17
In this case, we aren't supposed to be enemies. But allies. Xolodno Jun 2020 #19
hahaha, it is funny watching this place during election season SiliconValley_Dem Jun 2020 #20
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