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MontanaMama

(23,238 posts)
4. Makes sense...
Wed Jul 1, 2020, 01:13 PM
Jul 2020

I am not sure what to hope for. I want him to do prison time so badly and I know that that is unlikely.

Interesting Captain Zero Jul 2020 #1
That wouldn't be good evilhime Jul 2020 #76
Pence will have a worse case of "Ford's Folly" than Ford himself. Eyeball_Kid Jul 2020 #89
Maybe the destruction of the repulican party Turbineguy Jul 2020 #157
If Trump doesn't run and Pence is the nominee DonaldsRump Jul 2020 #171
+1 Jarqui Jul 2020 #195
I don't think Haley would do it PJMcK Jul 2020 #201
I don't think Ford had a legal leg to wnylib Jul 2020 #208
pence is not royal material. his certitude doesn't sell to authoritarians like trump's certainot Jul 2020 #125
He doesn't have to resign before the election. Ms. Toad Jul 2020 #129
but why would he? Orangepeel Jul 2020 #144
Also Trump then doesn't have to endure losing, which may be a major factor for him. n/t Chemisse Jul 2020 #165
That isn't what the scenario says. Ms. Toad Jul 2020 #176
The irony would be COL Mustard Jul 2020 #178
I agree seta1950 Jul 2020 #132
If this somebody had any ethics and morals he would be saying it publically. olegramps Jul 2020 #92
I get why they're talking about Trump resigning and Pence pardoning him before the election. citizen blues Jul 2020 #148
When there is a VP vacancy the President nominates and Congress confirms. LiberalFighter Jul 2020 #154
Right. citizen blues Jul 2020 #155
Remember Barr helped Papa Bear Bush SallyHemmings Jul 2020 #164
Trump pardons Pence first ... VMA131Marine Jul 2020 #190
Interesting MLAA Jul 2020 #2
Her parents depend on her, too. Scarsdale Jul 2020 #64
Chain migration. Ms. Toad Jul 2020 #131
Yup. And Melania brought her sister over here too, 4 people total using chain migration. SunSeeker Jul 2020 #143
He'll never resign. lagomorph777 Jul 2020 #81
I have a hard time thinking he will resign TimeToGo Jul 2020 #109
No, his survival depends on getting installed again. lagomorph777 Jul 2020 #113
Either way, trump won't show for the inauguration. alfredo Jul 2020 #187
As for McCain's reason for choosing Palin, the first visual that comes to mind, is... Frustratedlady Jul 2020 #3
No question PCIntern Jul 2020 #5
It wasn't just looks TlalocW Jul 2020 #88
And a particular type of charisma The Mouth Jul 2020 #173
McCain got a boner, Palin got the nod. It's that simple. stopbush Jul 2020 #111
I wonder TimeToGo Jul 2020 #112
Former Republicans in my family did not vote for McCain phylny Jul 2020 #119
In Those Days I Voted Reliably Republican COL Mustard Jul 2020 #179
it was putin. manafort was mccains campaign cochair. limbaugh would not support mccain certainot Jul 2020 #116
Speaking of Limpballs, is he still broadcasting? Frustratedlady Jul 2020 #123
he comes in for a day or few then can't make it in for a while. the whole talk radio-led certainot Jul 2020 #130
Karma is a bitch. I know one of his long-time followers and will be glad when he no longer spews Frustratedlady Jul 2020 #135
To the whole entourage that brought her in she was MILF. As an ex-medic, I would have enjoyed...... usaf-vet Jul 2020 #124
I disagree. He wanted Joe Leiberman, who was an ugly cuss. Chemisse Jul 2020 #168
Makes sense... MontanaMama Jul 2020 #4
Did he mention who he thinks would run in his place? Freddie Jul 2020 #6
Didn't he say Pence would pardon him? IMO that implies it would be Pence. brush Jul 2020 #18
In theory genxlib Jul 2020 #51
If he resigns I think Pence automatically becomes president. brush Jul 2020 #55
Yeah, that is what I meant genxlib Jul 2020 #84
I think a lot of us here remember Manifestor_of_Light Jul 2020 #193
Nelson Rockefeller would have been a good President IMHO FakeNoose Jul 2020 #203
If Biden wins, Trump can resign between election day and inauguration day... thesquanderer Jul 2020 #70
I keep pointing out to iq45* that if he just stayed a lousy salesman in NY, we would not niyad Jul 2020 #69
The OP, at least, didn't set out the timing. Ms. Toad Jul 2020 #137
I don't think his thinking is that clear... jimlup Jul 2020 #205
Has the deadline for filing volstork Jul 2020 #49
Filings occur after the national conventions. LiberalFighter Jul 2020 #156
At this point, it would have to be pence because of the time. I suppose they could nominate catbyte Jul 2020 #60
Romney has no chance if winning against Biden and even less chance JI7 Jul 2020 #114
Wouldnt work. The RW wont vote for a "RINO" even if it means an evil Democrat wins. oldsoftie Jul 2020 #153
This may just be wishful thinking in your friend's part MaryMagdaline Jul 2020 #7
Time will tell but I can't see Trump cut and run on the national stage dutch777 Jul 2020 #8
A pardon can be pre-emptive (as Nixon's was).... lastlib Jul 2020 #25
Trump has a million potential state charges waiting for him Downtown Hound Jul 2020 #67
That may be our best hope. lastlib Jul 2020 #71
Nixon was given immunity, not a pardon sanatanadharma Jul 2020 #121
The President issuing the pardon can make it applicable.... lastlib Jul 2020 #140
Curious I am, how much discretion the Prez has sanatanadharma Jul 2020 #145
McCain lost it for me... Bush cronies insult his daughter. 3Hotdogs Jul 2020 #101
If I were Mrs. Cruz (perish the thought)... 3catwoman3 Jul 2020 #127
Thanks for this malaise Jul 2020 #9
And then Pence will run with Nikki Haley. Which I had always thought would happen pnwmom Jul 2020 #10
Would "Mother" allow that? Siwsan Jul 2020 #22
Sure she would. pnwmom Jul 2020 #41
Unless Trump waits until after the election to resign. n/t Ms. Toad Jul 2020 #139
I agree. Haley always had the backhanded way of "agreeing" with trump. oldsoftie Jul 2020 #151
If that happens, just watch The Lincoln Project do a 180 and go after Biden. n/t Liberal In Texas Jul 2020 #11
I Don't Think They Like Pence Either ProfessorGAC Jul 2020 #14
I don't think they will leftieNanner Jul 2020 #15
Rick Wilson says Trumpism just be rooted out--including his enablers. I'll keep my fingers crossed tblue37 Jul 2020 #45
You should actually listen to the LP people. They like Biden JI7 Jul 2020 #106
they hate Pence also. they also don't like nikki haley JI7 Jul 2020 #107
One can dream Midnightwalk Jul 2020 #12
It would likely be harder for Biden. Old school repubs will gladly pull the lever for Pence. progressoid Jul 2020 #78
Could be Midnightwalk Jul 2020 #120
Agree, the trifecta of charges will certainly do him in. He deserves to be brought before the Hague onetexan Jul 2020 #186
Bingo! Duppers Jul 2020 #167
Hope your friend is correct - makes sense to me... Sancho Jul 2020 #13
This is something I can believe. Kablooie Jul 2020 #16
I bet he'd make a run for it. calimary Jul 2020 #35
If he doesn't win his main concern will be to avoid consequences from his presidential years. Kablooie Jul 2020 #48
He and his family can cut and run but they can't hide - anywhere. pazzyanne Jul 2020 #110
Putin's trophy will be running the US rump government in exile. Marcuse Jul 2020 #142
Rid of him but it's a short-term victory if we don't finally start to reign in GOP crimes. lagomorph777 Jul 2020 #85
Interesting. Thank you for sharing. PoindexterOglethorpe Jul 2020 #17
When McCain defended Obama from that nasty old white woman who tried to paint him Goodheart Jul 2020 #19
Exactly. PCIntern Jul 2020 #20
What would trump say? I just don't see a "presentation" that is trump like in how he would do it themaguffin Jul 2020 #87
Mccain would have done the same even if he could win JI7 Jul 2020 #108
Wouldn't it be funny if he resigned and Pence stiffed him on the pardon? CanonRay Jul 2020 #21
Yes shanti Jul 2020 #53
That is my hope bottomofthehill Jul 2020 #188
How can Pence pardon him? C OH Dem Jul 2020 #23
Yes. Nixon was. n/t Mr.Bill Jul 2020 #28
Welcome to DU, C OH Dem! calimary Jul 2020 #43
Yep. Al Franken told a story. Manifestor_of_Light Jul 2020 #194
The biggest problem the GOP has Mr.Bill Jul 2020 #24
I can see him cutting and running (even to Russia) rocktivity Jul 2020 #26
And leaving hundreds of millions in debt behind. louis-t Jul 2020 #46
He most likely owes the Russians a shit-ton of cash, too. SeattleVet Jul 2020 #61
It's wouldn't be Russia but SA. Duppers Jul 2020 #169
tRump is not, will not resign, this is his shining reality show moment, an idiot playing an idiot yaesu Jul 2020 #27
He will resign, after the election Johnny2X2X Jul 2020 #29
Agreed. Also, if the Rs forced him out the magats would revolt MarcA Jul 2020 #103
I can see that. However Trump would have to Roc2020 Jul 2020 #30
Re grantcart Jul 2020 #31
"He isn't playing to win he's playing to monetize." crickets Jul 2020 #52
"He isn't playing to win he's playing to monetize." Strelnikov_ Jul 2020 #58
I've long thought McCain picked Palin b/c he didn't really want to win bobbieinok Jul 2020 #32
Karl Rove was behind the Palin pick. McCain was told (and convinced) Baltimike Jul 2020 #33
Palin was not "historic" as a woman veep pick. Sogo Jul 2020 #68
Yes INDEED she was... Baltimike Jul 2020 #133
It was a calculated "can't miss" Freddie Jul 2020 #80
indeed, that too. nt Baltimike Jul 2020 #134
He won't cut and run SpaceNeedle Jul 2020 #34
Welcome to DU, SpaceNeedle! calimary Jul 2020 #50
Why should we trust trump to do something that sane, practical and decent at this point? Paladin Jul 2020 #36
it sounds very plausible to me LymphocyteLover Jul 2020 #37
Just another ML bucolic_frolic Jul 2020 #38
Trump has avoided the consequences of his actions... Mazeltov Cocktail Jul 2020 #39
Dump Is Basically SDJay Jul 2020 #40
Criminals walk Traildogbob Jul 2020 #42
Good point. Sogo Jul 2020 #75
That could cause chaos in the GOP. They'd get slaughtered even more. OrlandoDem2 Jul 2020 #44
Followers of MF45 absolutely hate Romney. bronxiteforever Jul 2020 #56
Would Jeb Bush or John Kasich be interested? nt Duppers Jul 2020 #170
I would like to believe this but I can't. NoMoreRepugs Jul 2020 #47
Same here Sherman A1 Jul 2020 #57
I don't either. cwydro Jul 2020 #198
Oh course the only question is when he resigns PuppyBismark Jul 2020 #54
That would be terrible. Pardoning of executive miscreants is........ jaxexpat Jul 2020 #59
Very intresting. Pence pardoning zentrum Jul 2020 #62
Trump will resign by the end of July - Nikki Haley accepts nomination at GOP convention in late Aug. Red Oak Jul 2020 #63
"Red Oak," as in Ernst's hometown? Sogo Jul 2020 #77
Then we need to see if there's evidence that Pence conspired with Trump to keep his crimes hush hush Mr. Ected Jul 2020 #65
Not true at all. He can pardon anybody (except himself) for any reason. lagomorph777 Jul 2020 #93
Not from prison. Mr. Ected Jul 2020 #147
You mean like after Iran-Contra, Bush didn't become President, 'cause he went to jail? lagomorph777 Jul 2020 #152
Pence can't pardon Trump because Trump has never Downtown Hound Jul 2020 #66
Ford gave Nixon a blanket pardon; no charges were ever filed. lagomorph777 Jul 2020 #90
State charges don't apply to such a pardon Downtown Hound Jul 2020 #96
No, nobody can pardon him from state charges. Thought you meant the federal pardon. lagomorph777 Jul 2020 #98
Been saying he'd resign to my wife for a couple months. plimsoll Jul 2020 #72
My husband has been saying the same. Duppers Jul 2020 #174
The problem is 2 conflicting needs. plimsoll Jul 2020 #184
To be pardoned, you need to be convicted of something first, correct? Brainfodder Jul 2020 #73
Nixon was pardoned, but never charged. Pathwalker Jul 2020 #102
OK, then pardon accepting is an ADMISSION of guilt? Brainfodder Jul 2020 #117
Well that is their best option to save the party long term PaulRevere08 Jul 2020 #74
Yeah, but Trump wouldn't care about that..... Sogo Jul 2020 #79
They didn't title the movie "Game Change" for nothing. A HERETIC I AM Jul 2020 #82
If they cut and run RussBLib Jul 2020 #83
AMEN! Duppers Jul 2020 #175
Presidential pardons require being found guilty dlk Jul 2020 #86
Ford pardoned Nixon. No charges were ever filed against Nixon. lagomorph777 Jul 2020 #94
I thought I read some time ago that a president can pardon someone Eyeball_Kid Jul 2020 #95
Would be funny if Pence lies to him and then does not pardon him. OverBurn Jul 2020 #91
That's probably the only way that the white-haired wonder could compete in the election. Eyeball_Kid Jul 2020 #99
If it turns out as your friend indicates Dan Jul 2020 #97
He can't be pardoned if he isn't convicted apnu Jul 2020 #100
Wrong. This thread has plenty of explanations. Pathwalker Jul 2020 #105
Ford's pardon of Nixon was actually immunity sanatanadharma Jul 2020 #136
But the parties could strike a deal, as they did with Hortensis Jul 2020 #115
This is true and better said than others I've read around here. apnu Jul 2020 #158
Yes. I was disappointed that Nixon wasn't prosecuted. Hortensis Jul 2020 #163
Pence won't win Nululu Jul 2020 #104
Pence can't pardon because Trump is not formally charged with anything. Grins Jul 2020 #118
Pence can't just blanket it pardon him for everything he's ever done wrong in his life. cbdo2007 Jul 2020 #122
What would happen If the Dems filed articles of impeachment against Pence and Trump on the same day. usaf-vet Jul 2020 #126
Pence won't win Dopers_Greed Jul 2020 #128
I think Trump will wait until after November 3rd to resign... jimlup Jul 2020 #181
He's still embezzling campaign funds, you can bet on it FakeNoose Jul 2020 #204
Very interesting. WinstonSmith4740 Jul 2020 #138
That's always been a Never Trumper wet dream. RGTIndy Jul 2020 #141
I think it's wishful thinking for a number of reasons Warpy Jul 2020 #146
I hope they all tell him that he can win and doesn't resign. LiberalFighter Jul 2020 #149
If Pence agrees to pardon the Trump family his goose will be cooked. LiberalFighter Jul 2020 #150
It all sounds like the truth to me. Joinfortmill Jul 2020 #159
They're deluded if they think he's going to skate by on the state crimes. GoCubsGo Jul 2020 #160
Exactly what my husband said days ago Duppers Jul 2020 #161
For what it's worth, I think he will resign prior to election also. EOM tiredtoo Jul 2020 #162
He'd better hurry then - because this bounties issue will likely take Pence down too Lucinda Jul 2020 #166
It fits trump's pattern, but we don't know enough about Putin's stick or carrot. Hermit-The-Prog Jul 2020 #172
I don't think Trump is in line for any pardons jmowreader Jul 2020 #177
So could he resign after November 3rd's loss and Pence still pardon him? jimlup Jul 2020 #180
The latest nonsensical version of Trump stepping down Awsi Dooger Jul 2020 #182
we'll see. until then. we keep fighting that asshole every day in every way SiliconValley_Dem Jul 2020 #183
I have seen predictions of Biden getting up to 432 Electoral Votes amuse bouche Jul 2020 #185
I don't think Trump would've come out in favor of masks today Raine Jul 2020 #189
Trump can't be pardoned, the constitution forbids pardons in cases of impeachment W T F Jul 2020 #191
Who would pardon Pence? Chicago1980 Jul 2020 #192
I that happened, I wonder if Pence would really pardon Trump? Would the republicans brewens Jul 2020 #196
Wow! I Posted this on the fly and PCIntern Jul 2020 #197
But why saddle McCain with PALIN of all people? Beartracks Jul 2020 #199
She had had a profile in one of the magazines PCIntern Jul 2020 #200
This sounds like they are trying it on to see they could make it fly. Ford_Prefect Jul 2020 #202
As I stated in the OP PCIntern Jul 2020 #206
He will wait until after the election Curtis Jul 2020 #207
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