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Straw Man

(6,613 posts)
46. Let me be perfectly clear.
Thu Jul 2, 2020, 11:04 AM
Jul 2020

I think that the black woman in this encounter would have been perfectly justified, morally and legally, in shooting the white woman who was brandishing a pistol in her face and acting irrationally. The first response to your post says essentially the same thing. But since she apparently wasn't armed, she was risking her and her daughter's lives by confronting the woman in the way she did. Luckily, it worked out, but as a general course of action it is not advisable.

I would probably go against the general current of feelings on this site if I advised people to arm themselves against such encounters, but that's what I believe should be done. When someone is pointing a gun in your face and screaming at you, there is every reason to believe your life is in danger, and you are justified in responding with deadly force.

Why are they standing their yelling. marie999 Jul 2020 #1
Oh, please StarfishSaver Jul 2020 #11
Yes, marie999 Jul 2020 #21
You think that furious woman with a gun will suddenly start acting dawg day Jul 2020 #22
Rationality. Straw Man Jul 2020 #27
"some responses are more rational than others" ... Until they're not StarfishSaver Jul 2020 #31
You seem to have missed my point completely. Straw Man Jul 2020 #33
You have no way of knowing what you would have done in that situation StarfishSaver Jul 2020 #23
Exactly, and well said. Merlot Jul 2020 #28
I would not have stood there. She would have been dead. marie999 Jul 2020 #47
You have no idea what you would have done StarfishSaver Jul 2020 #50
You have no idea who I am, marie999 Jul 2020 #54
You're right. I don't StarfishSaver Jul 2020 #56
We do however, have an idea of what you allege to be. LanternWaste Jul 2020 #75
The only thing I "allege" to be is a 72 year old woman who cares for her family. marie999 Jul 2020 #82
I didn't. I simply expounded on the point of order you brought to the table. LanternWaste Jul 2020 #99
And why would I bother to prove anything about myself to a person marie999 Jul 2020 #100
LOL, ok! nt USALiberal Jul 2020 #62
Very well said Withywindle Jul 2020 #98
enjoy your time here. TeamPooka Jul 2020 #80
As if that matters NutmegYankee Jul 2020 #19
that is a ridiculous take. this white trash needs to be in jail SiliconValley_Dem Jul 2020 #37
What an unbelievably odd take away. SlogginThroughIt Jul 2020 #45
Got a good look at her face, so that should help ID her. Happy Hoosier Jul 2020 #2
Said she was arrested and released Ferrets are Cool Jul 2020 #4
Evidently the sheriff is running for reelection and doesn't want to offend white people dalton99a Jul 2020 #7
Exactly. Released - did they release her on bail? What charges were filed, if any? onetexan Jul 2020 #24
As long as people - even those claiming to be allies - StarfishSaver Jul 2020 #36
Let me be perfectly clear. Straw Man Jul 2020 #46
Straw Man, I think your posts make a lot of sense. MisterNiceKitty Jul 2020 #60
If the black woman had been armed Bettie Jul 2020 #70
I think that depends on the jurisdiction. Straw Man Jul 2020 #97
Because "not all jurisdictions," right? StarfishSaver Jul 2020 #102
Nonsense! artemisia1 Jul 2020 #52
Since you're online "advising" people you don't know and likely will never read what you wrote StarfishSaver Jul 2020 #55
It has nothing to do with outrage artemisia1 Jul 2020 #61
This kind of SHIT is happening all over 'Merica. Ferrets are Cool Jul 2020 #3
If the person driving the car did hit that woman avebury Jul 2020 #5
yes, i'm hoping the woman will secure a good lawyer & hit that racist woman w/ a lawsuit onetexan Jul 2020 #25
fucking unhinged trash JI7 Jul 2020 #6
We can't end racism in my lifetime (I'm 71) but we CAN make open racist behaviour... Tom Rinaldo Jul 2020 #8
+1 uponit7771 Jul 2020 #20
good arrest the terrorist rockfordfile Jul 2020 #9
Why is brandishing a weapon like that not punished? gollygee Jul 2020 #10
+1 dalton99a Jul 2020 #12
We know what would have happened. StarfishSaver Jul 2020 #13
It should be. The law is on the books. Straw Man Jul 2020 #29
Wonder what led up to her pulling the gun. She already has it out when video starts Takket Jul 2020 #14
It sounds like she was backing up and unaware that the Black woman and her family were behind her gollygee Jul 2020 #15
Thanks! Takket Jul 2020 #17
There's a longer video taken by the woman's daughter tishaLA Jul 2020 #16
I wonder if the woman had just apologized Takket Jul 2020 #18
Who do you think should have apologized? StarfishSaver Jul 2020 #26
The white woman that nearly hit the girl Takket Jul 2020 #38
Even if she hadn't apologized, this wouldn't have happened if she hadn't tried to run over the black StarfishSaver Jul 2020 #42
The white woman was not driving, her husband was csziggy Jul 2020 #89
Why they were both charged StarfishSaver Jul 2020 #91
He almost backed the car into at least one person csziggy Jul 2020 #93
it is in the video i replied to... Takket Jul 2020 #96
Frankly.. Omen78 Jul 2020 #30
No. This has nothing to do with a lack of "civility" or "courtesy" StarfishSaver Jul 2020 #32
We'll just have to disagree Omen78 Jul 2020 #34
Let's see you have a gun pulled on you gollygee Jul 2020 #35
Thank you StarfishSaver Jul 2020 #39
I've had a gun pulled on me. Omen78 Jul 2020 #40
I think the best protection Black people have right now gollygee Jul 2020 #41
"Both sides" StarfishSaver Jul 2020 #43
Sheesh, so now its OK to pull a gun on someone "just cuz"? Ferrets are Cool Jul 2020 #49
I'd ask what is wrong with people Bettie Jul 2020 #44
FFS another "Karen" mention. nt USALiberal Jul 2020 #63
+1 obamanut2012 Jul 2020 #66
Sure, that's the issue Bettie Jul 2020 #68
Another opportunity to center white women's discomfort! nt gollygee Jul 2020 #72
Oakland County Sheriff's Department which could not confirm the woman's identity. MagickMuffin Jul 2020 #48
If this had been a black woman StarfishSaver Jul 2020 #51
Detroit news article Takket Jul 2020 #53
Absolutely nothing qwlauren35 Jul 2020 #57
Thank you StarfishSaver Jul 2020 #58
Yeah, I Don't Get It ProfessorGAC Jul 2020 #59
"Both sides behaved badly" has no place in a discussion of someone pulling a gun on anyone in this m StarfishSaver Jul 2020 #64
Same Page ProfessorGAC Jul 2020 #65
After reading the story and watching both videos Maeve Jul 2020 #67
Never pull a gun without the intent to use it. ismnotwasm Jul 2020 #69
She may have intended to use it StarfishSaver Jul 2020 #71
That was exactly my thought ismnotwasm Jul 2020 #85
White Michigan couple arrested after gun pulled on Blacks Eugene Jul 2020 #73
Why do almost all of these incidents involve white women? Blaukraut Jul 2020 #74
White women have a particular place in white supremacy gollygee Jul 2020 #76
I never looked at it this way. Thank you! n/t Blaukraut Jul 2020 #77
You're welcome! nt gollygee Jul 2020 #78
Yes! StarfishSaver Jul 2020 #79
That's what was so disturbing about the birdwatcher in Central Park sweetloukillbot Jul 2020 #81
Scottsboro Boys, Susan Smith ... StarfishSaver Jul 2020 #83
The full video explains what really happened! mysteryowl Jul 2020 #84
It explains that there was more context but the brandishing PTWB Jul 2020 #86
She was released. mysteryowl Jul 2020 #87
Indeed. PTWB Jul 2020 #88
+1000 ismnotwasm Jul 2020 #90
She was released and then charged with felonious assault and arrested StarfishSaver Jul 2020 #92
Wow! Arrested Twice! mysteryowl Jul 2020 #94
Thanks for posting superpatriotman Jul 2020 #95
Kick ck4829 Jul 2020 #101
Did you see she started her media pity tour? StarfishSaver Jul 2020 #103
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