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The Velveteen Ocelot

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3. However, he's already been convicted of the crimes

Reply to malthaussen (Original post)

Sat Jul 11, 2020, 12:03 PM

Jul 2020

and commutation means the conviction stands; he just doesn't have to do prison time. Since double jeopardy has attached due to the conviction, meaning he can't be tried again for those crimes, I don't see why he'd be entitled to plead the Fifth in this instance either - at least with respect to the elements of the crimes for which he was convicted.

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Somebody in the Trump Administration has a brain. [View all] malthaussen Jul 2020 OP

I read stone asked for it, but yeah, it's no accident soothsayer Jul 2020 #1

Probably Barr, the guy who said he was opposed to pardoning/commuting, but only did so to KPN Jul 2020 #2

However, he's already been convicted of the crimes The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2020 #3

I believe Stone is still trying to get a new trial VMA131Marine Jul 2020 #4

In that case, yes. His request for a new trial was denied by the trial judge, The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2020 #7

Does that mean he would be subject to contempt charges House of Roberts Jul 2020 #5

I would think so. If you can't plead the fifth you're out of excuses. The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2020 #6