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calimary

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37. All these complaints are legitimate - but THIS one in particular might be first.
Wed Aug 26, 2020, 12:36 PM
Aug 2020

I used to fume about the whoring for "access" during bush/cheney. MAN-OH-MAN did the cheney people muscle that one in, deep. You did not get "access" with the administration folks who counted, unless you gave them the constant benefit of the doubt. dubya even yowled about it once, as I recall. "Well, just gimme the benefit of the doubt!"

I used to tear my hair about the "anything for access" mentality - to do what? Hear more of the same lies, distortions, and manipulative bullshit you heard last time one of 'em went on TV?

I kept fuming - "okay, so you piss off the White House because you tell the truth? That's a bad thing? Telling the truth is a bad thing now?" Or maybe "not expedient" or "we HAVE TO compete! If we take a stand, nobody will talk to us and they'll just go on our competition all the time!"

To which I'd growl - "so you're too lazy to develop interesting/relevant/provocative sources? You know nobody in poly-sci circles? International policy/diplomacy circles? Nobody who's experienced or a recognized constitutional expert, historian, respected authors or academics? How 'bout FORMER government officials who still remember how it was done right/ethically/legally? You can't start NOW, to cultivate new people as talking heads? Rachel Maddow's done that multiple times. She brought Joyce Vance in. Chuck Rosenberg. Barbara McQuade. They and others have become familiar names on-camera, showcased in marquee-name editorials and commentaries in the NYTimes and Washington Post. And thus they become noteworthy (or more noteworthy) by this exposure. Heck, I went through a Google search, and saw a four-way split-screen shot of Vance AND McQuade both testifying in Congress before the House Judiciary Committee looking into "presidential obstruction." One of the other four in the blocks was famed Watergate penitent and now media gadfly John Dean. These folks have stature of their own. And credibility. Name-recognition. Audience familiarity. They're now quite well-established as experts in their field, and most of 'em have highly-respectable resumes. I wouldn't even be surprised if one of them eventually got a show of his/her own maybe on Saturday mornings or something. They're already semi-regulars on other MSNBC shows by now.

Shit, THAT'S how you do it. Counter-programming! Grow, cultivate, develop YOUR OWN experts and VIPs and reliable sources! Showcase them! Make THEM into household names! Who needs those other assholes who won't talk to you and are trying to boycott you and thereby decrease your relevance. Fuck 'em! They're blocking the road? Find another road! Or get a catapult. Or a boat. Or one of those personal flying machines. Or a BIG megaphone and a stage with a lot of glitter and lights and metallic streamers and other eye/camera catching elements and fireworks in the background, right at the edge of their boycott. Or SOMETHING!

DON'T CEDE THE STAGE!!! If you can't use the one they're hogging, FOR PETE'S SAKE, build one of your own that competes and make sure it generates lots of stuff that's splashy and attention-getting - audio AND visual! ESPECIALLY visual.

Indeed. dalton99a Aug 2020 #1
We are witnessing galloping fascism. NCjack Aug 2020 #30
They aren't even waiting DENVERPOPS Aug 2020 #63
Exactly! MineralMan Aug 2020 #2
As I said to a friend, once you've committed treason and gotten away with it CanonRay Aug 2020 #3
You are so right!!! Rebl2 Aug 2020 #12
Yup SheltieLover Aug 2020 #32
KICK for your Righteous Rant, max.. I hate the US lazy ass Cha Aug 2020 #4
Yes. When we talk about how this disaster happened in the first place, can't forget wiggs Aug 2020 #5
I have said this before, and I say it again. The msm is owned by people who support tRump. overleft Aug 2020 #17
Possibly, but they think they own Trump RVN VET71 Aug 2020 #26
RVN, most people in the U.S. that are DENVERPOPS Aug 2020 #34
I pray that these same people turn out to be right. RVN VET71 Aug 2020 #64
The German Industrialists Kaiserguy Aug 2020 #41
Disgraceful! Mike 03 Aug 2020 #6
You are 100% correct... Moostache Aug 2020 #7
Might I add... rwsanders Aug 2020 #19
Great points! (n/t) Moostache Aug 2020 #21
What I want to know is when MSM going to ask trump where his promised healthcare plan is Cozmo Aug 2020 #24
Good luck with that Coz DENVERPOPS Aug 2020 #35
What is the most important thing for corporate media, et al? Newest Reality Aug 2020 #8
Its fascist tactics to distract and inflict a feeling of weakness with brazen overriding of laws BSdetect Aug 2020 #9
K&R Solomon Aug 2020 #10
K & R Arkansas Granny Aug 2020 #11
The media mavens are afraid of alienating some procon Aug 2020 #13
All these complaints are legitimate - but THIS one in particular might be first. calimary Aug 2020 #37
+1000 LiberalLovinLug Aug 2020 #49
They're afraid of being sued if they're wrong or even if it's just slightly ambiguous. meadowlander Aug 2020 #62
BLIZZAM! The_Counsel Aug 2020 #14
I'm sure they have been threatened with being denied access if Sucha NastyWoman Aug 2020 #15
You are absolutely correct. gademocrat7 Aug 2020 #16
There is no rule of law in this country. ananda Aug 2020 #18
They must be in a CYA mode. Dios Mio Aug 2020 #20
Please name names! Wednesdays Aug 2020 #22
This reminds me of playing one-on-one as a kid gratuitous Aug 2020 #23
As if they don't have legal experts on retainer to check this IronLionZion Aug 2020 #25
Everything is a question now. pwb Aug 2020 #27
Just wait until Joe Biden jaywalkes. They won't have any problem saying he broke the law Takket Aug 2020 #28
They need to say "prosecutable after Trump leaves office"... zaj Aug 2020 #29
DO NOT watch!! If you want to change the the narrative we have to tank their viewer numbers Thekaspervote Aug 2020 #31
This is exactly what I have been saying Galraedia Aug 2020 #33
Nothing will happen to them. Mob lawyer Barr will see to that. Vinca Aug 2020 #36
The Republican-owned media is just protecting their interests. live love laugh Aug 2020 #38
Great post Max. You should send this to a few good reporters. panader0 Aug 2020 #39
I had the identical thought malaise Aug 2020 #40
Thanks for allowing it to go unchallenged, M$M Blue Owl Aug 2020 #42
Agreed 100% pandr32 Aug 2020 #43
This! an effing 1,000,000 times THIS. Not enough to have repukes do it? n/t n/t MFGsunny Aug 2020 #44
But who's going to hold them to it? dreamland Aug 2020 #45
I feel this only ends with his suicide in a bunker or Armageddon. And maybe both. Texin Aug 2020 #46
This message was self-deleted by its author jorgevlorgan Aug 2020 #47
Who was saying this? We should email whatever network this was on. chowder66 Aug 2020 #48
We'd have to contact just about everyone in the media maxrandb Aug 2020 #56
Ok.Thanks! chowder66 Aug 2020 #57
They created DT Oscarthegreat Aug 2020 #50
violating our laws marieo1 Aug 2020 #51
......Spot On.... titanicdave Aug 2020 #52
I agree with you 100%, however, even if EVERY media outlet screamed that this is illegal Ferrets are Cool Aug 2020 #53
I need more than one rec for this!!! Perhaps 1,000,000 recs!! tazmaniac Aug 2020 #54
Perfectly said seta1950 Aug 2020 #55
Thank you! Dark n Stormy Knight Aug 2020 #58
No shades of gray here! augyboston Aug 2020 #59
The media showing a crime in progress is really REALLY fucking bad! NT SayItLoud Aug 2020 #60
pox on most comerical media (liberal media , my tush.) AllaN01Bear Aug 2020 #61
Thsi is why I don't watch MSM. n/t. Scruffy1 Aug 2020 #65
My local Public Radio WNYC does an excellent job! electric_blue68 Aug 2020 #66
The RW media must have Karl Rove's dictionary playbook. ffr Aug 2020 #67
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