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Dr. Jack

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34. But are the Democrats powerful enough to do that

Sun Sep 20, 2020, 01:05 PM

Sep 2020

And to hold onto their majorities in the other two branches? If they can't hold on for years and years, which would be very unlikely if they go with that many huge power grabs at once (Republicans will get super riled up in that case) and in 2022 or 2024 they might very well be annoyed enough to overcome any dem advantages in the Senate and electoral vote. By 2024 we could have a Republican Senate and presidency again that could then ram through a ton of extra justices, which there would now be precedence for, and then where are we? In 5 years, Republicans controlling everything and adding people like Ted Cruz and Tom Cotton to the supreme Court at will and in the American publics mind, they might be justified in doing so. The Dems will have done it first. Is that tit for tat over the next 10-20 years going to be good for the country?

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Is a new balance coming? [View all] Dr. Jack Sep 2020 OP

All Democrats would have to stick together... No sure thing. idziak4ever1234 Sep 2020 #1

There is historical precedene Dr. Jack Sep 2020 #6

Truly an intriguing concept. idziak4ever1234 Sep 2020 #15

Sorry, but I'm not that "zen"... regnaD kciN Sep 2020 #17

Puerto Rico statehood only requires a vote in Congress, afaik unblock Sep 2020 #2

That doesn't appear to be the case... regnaD kciN Sep 2020 #10

Makes sense. Basically just redefine the district to be the actual key government properties unblock Sep 2020 #33

"Neither side would want to make any more moves..." regnaD kciN Sep 2020 #3

They can't just declare something unconstitutional. PoindexterOglethorpe Sep 2020 #32

I'm unclear on the process for DC and PR being made states? BannonsLiver Sep 2020 #4

It does not. It only requires legislation. Simple majority in both houses and signed by the Pres. Statistical Sep 2020 #7

Thank you. BannonsLiver Sep 2020 #16

While adding PR & DC are good ideas the SCOTUS is incredibly powerful Statistical Sep 2020 #5

But everything trends towards balance Dr. Jack Sep 2020 #8

I don't think you realize how powerful a one sided supreme court is. Statistical Sep 2020 #13

But then the Dems could go nuclear if the Republican supreme Court gets too aggressive Dr. Jack Sep 2020 #19

If you can do that then just do it. Statistical Sep 2020 #20

I can guarantee that if an island group texasfiddler Sep 2020 #9

I don't want a "new balance." hunter Sep 2020 #11

But how do you eliminate a party that has the support of 40% of the population? Dr. Jack Sep 2020 #14

You mean deplorable U.S.A.? hunter Sep 2020 #26

You find a way to stop that minority from prevailing.... Sogo Sep 2020 #31

But swing voters exist Dr. Jack Sep 2020 #35

Yes a Republican controlled supreme Court would be powerful but... Dr. Jack Sep 2020 #12

if we can do it then why not just do it. Why suffer under a Republican controlled Supreme Court ... Statistical Sep 2020 #18

But then the Republicans have something to run on Dr. Jack Sep 2020 #21

Republicans will do that regardless. Statistical Sep 2020 #22

Sure but it would be more convincing to more people if the Dems... Dr. Jack Sep 2020 #23

Keep in mind, it's not all about what we want Dr. Jack Sep 2020 #24

We have a problem with the Court because of the justice that was appointed ooky Sep 2020 #25

That would be nice but it's not about what we "want" Dr. Jack Sep 2020 #27

Not "want", balance is a state of being. You either have it or you don't and we ooky Sep 2020 #30

Perhaps a better new balance could be found Disaffected Sep 2020 #28

No. Look at the UK...not good and also we can't change our form of government. Demsrule86 Sep 2020 #37

With respect (and regret), Disaffected Sep 2020 #38

Pack the courts..make D.C. and Puerto Rico states also Tribetime Sep 2020 #29

But are the Democrats powerful enough to do that Dr. Jack Sep 2020 #34

No, with a right wing court, they would still dictate policy instead of voters. Demsrule86 Sep 2020 #36