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kurtcagle

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15. Nate's analysis.
Tue Sep 22, 2020, 07:26 PM
Sep 2020

What's noteworthy about 2020 vs 2016 was in the variability of the race. The timing with Comey at twenty-one days out made that obvious, as Clinton's numbers varied dramatically throughout the race. Clinton also ran a more divisive race, and was a far more controversial candidate. Trump was at 35% on 538 a week before the election and while he dropped dramatically, that number was sufficient for a lot of mail-in and early election ballots to be cast. Had the election been a week later, Clinton would have won the EC, assuming no other shenanigans.

Silver did in fact predict that an upset was entirely possible, but more to the point, he also made it clear that the Margin of Error on the race was very high. The 2020 MoE is looking to be much smaller, given the degree to which the race has barely budged.

My expectation is, given both the fact that there are more mail-in ballots and longer voting periods (good things, both), there's going to be a significant locked in advantage for Biden even IF there is an October surprise of some sort. I also suspect that Nate's model may actually be biased towards Trump precisely because of the 2016 election.

I agree, none of this should be taken to say we shouldn't get complacent. I fully expect that you will see every attempt made to cheat, especially at the Senate level, by the GOP. They're not even attempting to be subtle about it anymore. However, I think that the very explicit nature of that cheating is actually backfiring.

GOTV Takket Sep 2020 #1
Do these percentages factor in rampant cheating by the r's??? fierywoman Sep 2020 #2
There isn't a method to poll cheating but hopefully Biden's lead Under The Radar Sep 2020 #5
But but the media keeps saying the polls are doc03 Sep 2020 #3
Media wants a horserace. They always want a horserace. Statistical Sep 2020 #10
Fuck the Fucking media's "horserace".GOTV Cha Sep 2020 #4
This. Sogo Sep 2020 #7
Try this, Wellstone ruled Sep 2020 #9
For Context ProfessorGAC Sep 2020 #6
Nate's analysis. kurtcagle Sep 2020 #15
I saw a graph of Hillary's numbers and was surprised at how unstable they were shrike3 Sep 2020 #20
I Buy That ProfessorGAC Sep 2020 #21
Pretty much agreed on everything kurtcagle Sep 2020 #23
The Nation has made up it's mind Wellstone ruled Sep 2020 #8
K&R smirkymonkey Sep 2020 #11
Georgia and Iowa have 3 turnable Senate seats. GOTV there! Funtatlaguy Sep 2020 #12
What's GOTV? XanaDUer2 Sep 2020 #13
Get Out The Vote Funtatlaguy Sep 2020 #16
Get Out The Vote Aepps22 Sep 2020 #17
GOTV Get Out The Vote kurtcagle Sep 2020 #18
"Get Out The Vote" (GOTV) shrike3 Sep 2020 #19
That sounds like Trump's only hope is some sort of coup. lpbk2713 Sep 2020 #14
Coups need support and surprise kurtcagle Sep 2020 #22
So basically 1 out of 4 he'll return fescuerescue Sep 2020 #24
They had slightly lower prediction of Hillary winning. But not much mucifer Sep 2020 #25
What did they say 4 years ago at this time? former9thward Sep 2020 #26
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