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Kaleva

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48. The legislatures can vote to change the law but still need the govenor to either sign or veto
Thu Sep 24, 2020, 05:56 AM
Sep 2020

Congress, according to the Constitution, has the power of the purse but the president still needs to either sign or veto all budget bills.

indeed. drray23 Sep 2020 #1
I'm hoping if wrong somebody can point it out jorgevlorgan Sep 2020 #2
Not feasible? It was done in 2016 Boogiemack Sep 2020 #30
Faithless electors were appointed by their parties an still voted against them jorgevlorgan Sep 2020 #33
That's a good question... regnaD kciN Sep 2020 #3
Well florida looked on track to change their law at the time jorgevlorgan Sep 2020 #5
DUers have been passing around this article. I was only able to skim Mike 03 Sep 2020 #4
That's not going to happen. PoindexterOglethorpe Sep 2020 #6
Yeah jorgevlorgan Sep 2020 #8
The problem is that too many here simply do not understand just how the Electoral College works. PoindexterOglethorpe Sep 2020 #9
I remember them telling that to us in hs actually jorgevlorgan Sep 2020 #10
That is how most are chosen... Zeitghost Sep 2020 #16
VA ballot says "Electors for..." lagomorph777 Sep 2020 #54
All ballots say that. PoindexterOglethorpe Sep 2020 #55
legislatures certify which slate gets selected Orangepeel Sep 2020 #20
Even so, I can't imagine a state legisture certifying PoindexterOglethorpe Sep 2020 #23
You keep saying "clearly went for Biden" Hassin Bin Sober Sep 2020 #44
Vote counting isn't goingto happen. PoindexterOglethorpe Sep 2020 #45
In Michigan, the state SOS certifies which slate of electors are chosen Kaleva Sep 2020 #46
I mean sure they can try something tricky, if they want their capitals to burn like Nero's Rome. TeamPooka Sep 2020 #40
It would deprive people of the right to vote treestar Sep 2020 #7
You have a right to vote for most offices. roamer65 Sep 2020 #12
While they have the power to do that, doing so would be entirely at odds jorgevlorgan Sep 2020 #15
In most cases... Zeitghost Sep 2020 #17
That's how I see it. jorgevlorgan Sep 2020 #21
If it's taken to court, the Constitution is the law of the land. roamer65 Sep 2020 #26
Not if legal precedent and stronger areas of the constitution prevail jorgevlorgan Sep 2020 #28
SCOTUS was that stupid in 2000. roamer65 Sep 2020 #31
In 2000 they were about to change the law jorgevlorgan Sep 2020 #32
Hopefully we don't see the scenarios discussed. roamer65 Sep 2020 #34
Me too. And we have to stand firm against the coward nihilists POS that he is jorgevlorgan Sep 2020 #35
Who exactly was about to change the law and appoint electors in 2000? PoindexterOglethorpe Sep 2020 #36
The Republican state legislature and Governor Bush. jorgevlorgan Sep 2020 #38
It may have been stated at some point, but PoindexterOglethorpe Sep 2020 #39
Especially since it would have been likely that the recount would have amounted to a Bush victory jorgevlorgan Sep 2020 #41
Actually the final recount ordered by the Florida Supreme Court Trumpocalypse Sep 2020 #42
oh shnap you're right! jorgevlorgan Sep 2020 #43
To do so, they'd have to get their governor to agree or have enough votes to override a veto. Kaleva Sep 2020 #47
There was a ruling about electors from SCOTUS... cynatnite Sep 2020 #11
Yeah. If it is entirely up to the state as the scotus has made clear jorgevlorgan Sep 2020 #13
I do worry about trump and his minions gumming up the electoral process... cynatnite Sep 2020 #14
I think they will jorgevlorgan Sep 2020 #18
Well, I am feeling better about all this... cynatnite Sep 2020 #19
Yeah I mean he is spending all his campaign cash to overthrow150 years jorgevlorgan Sep 2020 #22
Some sort of link, or supporting evidence, please. PoindexterOglethorpe Sep 2020 #24
Here you go...there are a lot more links but I thought this stated it clearly enough... cynatnite Sep 2020 #25
Which means that "faithless electors" simply aren't an issue. PoindexterOglethorpe Sep 2020 #37
What is the process for determining which slate of electors ... Whiskeytide Sep 2020 #50
The popular vote in that state. PoindexterOglethorpe Sep 2020 #52
What if the popular vote is believed to be corrupted? Say ... Whiskeytide Sep 2020 #53
The state legislatures have complete latitude to do it however they decide. roamer65 Sep 2020 #27
No. They are still restrained by the laws in their state jorgevlorgan Sep 2020 #29
Not just precedent dansolo Sep 2020 #49
But would a hard right 6-3 Supreme Court radius777 Sep 2020 #51
The legislatures can vote to change the law but still need the govenor to either sign or veto Kaleva Sep 2020 #48
All depends on their laws. roamer65 Sep 2020 #56
Bigger question is how will Dump substantiate fraud in his race... roamer65 Sep 2020 #57
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