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Awsi Dooger

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28. You didn't address the self-identified conservative aspect at all
Sat Oct 17, 2020, 08:39 PM
Oct 2020

That was the centerpiece of my post. It is always the key element of my posts. Everything changes once that number drops to 37% or lower.

Everything. The floodgates open. It is incompetence by the mainstream media and also the political analysts never to focus on that aspect.

Colorado always had low number of conservatives. It was sheer ignorance for Democrats not to prioritize that state sooner. I posted that here and elsewhere. Colorado was just sitting there at low to mid 30s throughout. It was already well below the pivotal 37% barrier in 2004, when there were only 35% conservatives in Colorado. The math totally changes in that range because you only need a manageable percentage of moderates, and not the extreme burden of moderate percentage once it's into the 40s and especially 42% or above.

This is not a Virginia or Colorado situation. Virginia in 2004 was 38% conservatives. Colorado was 35%. Arizona in 2016 was 41%. That is a totally different world in terms of opportunity for the dam to burst open. As I emphasized in my prior post, I'd be a believer in higher Biden margin if Arizona dropped to let's say 38% conservatives in 2018. Instead it barely nudged down to 40%, and in a similarly heavy-blue cycle.

The Dole example is not relevant at all. I wrote states do not shift blue that quickly. They certainly can shift red that quickly, like all the examples from 2016. They can shift red in a hurry because the ideological high number is on that side. The swing states are swing states because they have that range of 6-12% more conservatives than liberals. Arizona 2016 still had 14% higher -- 41% to 27%.

Let's put it this way...if Biden does win Arizona big it will be short term and overhyped toward where the state really stands.

Thanks. elleng Oct 2020 #1
But really close. LisaL Oct 2020 #2
Still too damn close COL Mustard Oct 2020 #35
Maine-02. I've been there, those people obviously don't get it. dem4decades Oct 2020 #4
PA is too damn tight for comfort... regnaD kciN Oct 2020 #3
It's all too tight for comfort. dem4decades Oct 2020 #5
You want him to get 535 too? CaptYossarian Oct 2020 #8
Beat a horse dead, then beat a dead horse. I ain't stopping till the Trump presidency is gone. dem4decades Oct 2020 #11
Just like what Chief Brody did to that first shark. CaptYossarian Oct 2020 #12
We're gonna need a bigger vote. n/t whopis01 Oct 2020 #46
You must make bumper stickers for a living. CaptYossarian Oct 2020 #47
Agreed. NT aaaaaa5a Oct 2020 #6
Thank you Awsi Dooger Oct 2020 #7
Virginia certainly shifted significantly blue between 2004 and 2008. Drunken Irishman Oct 2020 #9
Yeah what is crazy is VA really was only a battleground for two Presidential elections. Statistical Oct 2020 #13
Methinks the same will happen to Texas. Yavin4 Oct 2020 #23
Obama was a once in a generation candidate. PTWB Oct 2020 #15
That wasn't the only reason Virginia shifted. Drunken Irishman Oct 2020 #19
Obama helped a little dsc Oct 2020 #24
Outliers and emphasis Awsi Dooger Oct 2020 #16
You claimed states don't shift that quickly... Drunken Irishman Oct 2020 #21
California went for Nixon Marthe48 Oct 2020 #25
You didn't address the self-identified conservative aspect at all Awsi Dooger Oct 2020 #28
I addressed your point that states never shift Democratic that quickly. Drunken Irishman Oct 2020 #29
Arizona is trending in the right direction JonLP24 Oct 2020 #38
One big thing though is that AZ has a changing electorate dsc Oct 2020 #26
AZ has been movimg to purple for quite some time. Sinema beat McSally for senate Vivienne235729 Oct 2020 #34
My only concern is the fake email "scandal" Eid Ma Clack Shaw Oct 2020 #10
The Post story is going absolutely nowhere nt Fiendish Thingy Oct 2020 #14
Respectfully disagree Windy City Charlie Oct 2020 #17
The right wing echo chamber seems to be the only ones carrying on about it. dem4decades Oct 2020 #18
I wonder what the 538 percentage would be Awsi Dooger Oct 2020 #20
It was in their grassroots session yesterday with the campaign manager. Drunken Irishman Oct 2020 #22
I would think good internal polling would be small c conservative. DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2020 #27
Link to source? nt USALiberal Oct 2020 #30
There is no source. It was pulled from a video with Jen O'Malley Dillon, Biden's campaign manager... Drunken Irishman Oct 2020 #31
OK, cool, thanks!! nt USALiberal Oct 2020 #32
Great catch grantcart Oct 2020 #37
This don't mean dick. SpankMe Oct 2020 #33
Texas needs to be a swing state IronLionZion Oct 2020 #36
A 5 point MOE is close enough for tRUMP to cheat his way to a win. IMO. NT SayItLoud Oct 2020 #39
PA is clearly the most important state. radius777 Oct 2020 #40
One sunbelt state can replace PA Rstrstx Oct 2020 #45
3 states to watch on Election night. RicROC Oct 2020 #41
As a Floridian, I am cautiously optimistic ... jb5150 Oct 2020 #42
It's too close to call. RandySF Oct 2020 #43
I reviewed the map and had two scenarios this morning... George II Oct 2020 #44
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