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beachbumbob

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7. to me the only use of polls is to indicate the trends and why I was skeptical in 2016 as everything
Sat Oct 31, 2020, 12:07 PM
Oct 2020

showed Hillary was dropping the moment Comey kneecapped her campaign. Nothing of the like is indicated in 2020, the exact opposite

K & R...for visibility...nt Wounded Bear Oct 2020 #1
You explained much better than I could PCIntern Oct 2020 #2
Am so glad there are folks like you on DU DonaldsRump Oct 2020 #3
You are not alone jimfields33 Oct 2020 #6
Thanks Silent3! That really helps me to understand the polls. BComplex Oct 2020 #4
Thank you very much, very informative! n/t Spazito Oct 2020 #5
to me the only use of polls is to indicate the trends and why I was skeptical in 2016 as everything beachbumbob Oct 2020 #7
The trends were a factor, and so were modeling errors Silent3 Oct 2020 #9
the 2016 polls were more correct than not and definitely NOT Wrong beachbumbob Oct 2020 #11
The term "statistical tie" needs to die a horrible death and never be heard from again DrToast Oct 2020 #8
You discounted the most important part: Fiendish Thingy Oct 2020 #10
As some else pointed out, the term "statistical tie" is, in and of itself, a problem. Silent3 Oct 2020 #12
Would you agree that a lead outside the MOE is better than one inside the MOE? Fiendish Thingy Oct 2020 #16
Certainly it's better to be outside the MoE Silent3 Oct 2020 #18
Nevertheless, there is a significant difference between leads outside/inside the MOE Nt Fiendish Thingy Oct 2020 #19
Significant in what way? Silent3 Oct 2020 #20
O'Donnell and all the others who conflate MOE and statistical tie are wrong, the OP is correct grantcart Oct 2020 #13
Excellent post grantcart Oct 2020 #14
Thank you! I'm bookmarking this post for future reference. SharonClark Oct 2020 #15
all pundits need it to be close treestar Oct 2020 #17
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