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Turin_C3PO

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30. Here's the problem as I see it.
Wed Nov 4, 2020, 12:07 PM
Nov 2020

If blue states seceded, would they still get Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, SNAP, etc? Wouldn’t the new, red, federal government have a monopoly on all the funds?

no answers. sad. NRaleighLiberal Nov 2020 #1
Secession has been a fantasy dream of mine for more than a little while mtnsnake Nov 2020 #2
No that is what kremlin would want putin TEB Nov 2020 #3
Plus I'd be screwed down in here in Texas. Bucky Nov 2020 #7
Just move SoCalNative Nov 2020 #9
OR we could half of us move to Texas, and half of us move to Florida. BComplex Nov 2020 #15
Nope SoCalNative Nov 2020 #18
Houston, Galveston, Corpus, and Brownsville make for a pretty damn blue coast my friend. Bucky Nov 2020 #25
But it's still SoCalNative Nov 2020 #27
Now there is an IDEA. Captain Zero Nov 2020 #23
You don't have to pay state income taxes! BComplex Nov 2020 #47
Then they will play tit-for-tat Polybius Nov 2020 #49
Exactly TEB Nov 2020 #26
We won't leave you 😂 TEB Nov 2020 #71
+1, that would be Putin's wet dream uponit7771 Nov 2020 #36
Yes TEB Nov 2020 #41
The blue states pay the bills- SallyHemmings Nov 2020 #4
I've wanted Calif to go alone for 20 years now. padfun Nov 2020 #5
I don't believe it is as close as it is. Vdizzle Nov 2020 #6
So NY would secede and become its own little country? cwydro Nov 2020 #8
I'd add the New England states for starters elias7 Nov 2020 #12
What about all the "militias" in those states. cwydro Nov 2020 #22
But there would be a little problem.... moose65 Nov 2020 #29
Libs and cons can live and work together elias7 Nov 2020 #57
Why would you leave out Virginia? We have worked SO HARD! phylny Nov 2020 #70
New York and New England are ready made Canadian provinces. roamer65 Nov 2020 #14
I don't get the fascination with becoming part of Canada Retrograde Nov 2020 #59
There are benefits in political union. roamer65 Nov 2020 #67
Any state that wants to join the Blue nation would be allowed to join. n/t Yavin4 Nov 2020 #20
Good luck! cwydro Nov 2020 #24
This message was self-deleted by its author sl8 Nov 2020 #10
Yeah.... TwilightZone Nov 2020 #17
What's that little blue county up Michigan's upper pen? Bucky Nov 2020 #28
Please don't post that misleading map moose65 Nov 2020 #31
This message was self-deleted by its author sl8 Nov 2020 #35
It's to point out the impossible task of forming borders... TwilightZone Nov 2020 #42
Not yet. roamer65 Nov 2020 #11
43% of NY voters voted for Trump. TwilightZone Nov 2020 #13
Becoming part of a new country, a blue one, would be good reason for them to leave mtnsnake Nov 2020 #39
It's not that simple. TwilightZone Nov 2020 #44
I never said or thought anything like that. mtnsnake Nov 2020 #58
Late last night I clicked on my state Oregon marlakay Nov 2020 #40
How? In the Civil War there were entire discrete states that wanted to secede as a group The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2020 #16
NY is a red state that looks blue because of NYC's massive voting block... TreasonousBastard Nov 2020 #37
It couldn't work, and wouldn't. crickets Nov 2020 #63
I agree. There's no way to do it without causing something worse. The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2020 #64
Being very old, H2O Man Nov 2020 #19
I feel the same MA Mom Nov 2020 #21
Here's the problem as I see it. Turin_C3PO Nov 2020 #30
We could start our own currency, social programs, and tax laws. Yavin4 Nov 2020 #34
Secession is out (remember the last time we tried it?) and I have no answer... TreasonousBastard Nov 2020 #32
Works for me! Buckeye_Democrat Nov 2020 #33
That question was answered in 1865. The answer was no. Fiendish Thingy Nov 2020 #38
Secession ain't gonna happen. Wednesdays Nov 2020 #43
At this point we are two countries, intertwined. Look at the history of Pakistan/India partition... Hekate Nov 2020 #45
Then there's little to no hope. Yavin4 Nov 2020 #46
We just keep slogging. My POV changed forever with Bush v Gore 20 years ago... Hekate Nov 2020 #56
You're talking sense. Thank you. nt crickets Nov 2020 #62
Let's, although I seem to recall sarisataka Nov 2020 #48
No... NurseJackie Nov 2020 #50
Why? How? Tommy_Carcetti Nov 2020 #51
No budkin Nov 2020 #52
How are we going to unite? Blaukraut Nov 2020 #53
So, over on Facebook this topic came up. I came up with some thoughts. GoneOffShore Nov 2020 #54
I'm in. Roisin Ni Fiachra Nov 2020 #55
I feel we're just too unstable to hold this much power in the world. ego_nation Nov 2020 #60
"We need a common enemy to unite us." moondust Nov 2020 #61
Perhaps, so. How do you propose we split your state (NY) up? Captain Stern Nov 2020 #65
NO csziggy Nov 2020 #66
Yep. We each choose our government (red or blue), then go from there ecstatic Nov 2020 #68
I think it's inevitable that it will eventually come to that. Crunchy Frog Nov 2020 #69
Can't we just kick out 5 red states, instead? nt coti Nov 2020 #72
I do think that secession could work, even today, . . . wackadoo wabbit Nov 2020 #73
It's been by dream for years Polybius Nov 2020 #74
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