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TreasonousBastard

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37. NY is a red state that looks blue because of NYC's massive voting block...

Reply to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #16)

Wed Nov 4, 2020, 12:29 PM

Nov 2020

Surrounding counties are full of NYers who left for more accommodating towns, and huge chunks of upstate look more like Alabama. My ED just re-elected our Trumpsucking House member ("member" with that alternative meaning) and over half the county seems thrilled with that.

So, if there were a secession movement, it would have to be NYC, Albany, and everyone else see red forever.

I suspect most "blue" states are this sort of purple.

And we are, at the end of things, still a very conservative country. (Whatever conservative" means any more)

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Maybe it's time to talk secession. [View all] Yavin4 Nov 2020 OP

no answers. sad. NRaleighLiberal Nov 2020 #1

Secession has been a fantasy dream of mine for more than a little while mtnsnake Nov 2020 #2

No that is what kremlin would want putin TEB Nov 2020 #3

Plus I'd be screwed down in here in Texas. Bucky Nov 2020 #7

Just move SoCalNative Nov 2020 #9

OR we could half of us move to Texas, and half of us move to Florida. BComplex Nov 2020 #15

Nope SoCalNative Nov 2020 #18

Houston, Galveston, Corpus, and Brownsville make for a pretty damn blue coast my friend. Bucky Nov 2020 #25

But it's still SoCalNative Nov 2020 #27

Now there is an IDEA. Captain Zero Nov 2020 #23

You don't have to pay state income taxes! BComplex Nov 2020 #47

Then they will play tit-for-tat Polybius Nov 2020 #49

Exactly TEB Nov 2020 #26

We won't leave you 😂 TEB Nov 2020 #71

+1, that would be Putin's wet dream uponit7771 Nov 2020 #36

Yes TEB Nov 2020 #41

The blue states pay the bills- SallyHemmings Nov 2020 #4

I've wanted Calif to go alone for 20 years now. padfun Nov 2020 #5

I don't believe it is as close as it is. Vdizzle Nov 2020 #6

So NY would secede and become its own little country? cwydro Nov 2020 #8

I'd add the New England states for starters elias7 Nov 2020 #12

What about all the "militias" in those states. cwydro Nov 2020 #22

But there would be a little problem.... moose65 Nov 2020 #29

Libs and cons can live and work together elias7 Nov 2020 #57

Why would you leave out Virginia? We have worked SO HARD! phylny Nov 2020 #70

New York and New England are ready made Canadian provinces. roamer65 Nov 2020 #14

I don't get the fascination with becoming part of Canada Retrograde Nov 2020 #59

There are benefits in political union. roamer65 Nov 2020 #67

Any state that wants to join the Blue nation would be allowed to join. n/t Yavin4 Nov 2020 #20

Good luck! cwydro Nov 2020 #24

This message was self-deleted by its author sl8 Nov 2020 #10

Yeah.... TwilightZone Nov 2020 #17

What's that little blue county up Michigan's upper pen? Bucky Nov 2020 #28

Please don't post that misleading map moose65 Nov 2020 #31

This message was self-deleted by its author sl8 Nov 2020 #35

It's to point out the impossible task of forming borders... TwilightZone Nov 2020 #42

Not yet. roamer65 Nov 2020 #11

43% of NY voters voted for Trump. TwilightZone Nov 2020 #13

Becoming part of a new country, a blue one, would be good reason for them to leave mtnsnake Nov 2020 #39

It's not that simple. TwilightZone Nov 2020 #44

I never said or thought anything like that. mtnsnake Nov 2020 #58

Late last night I clicked on my state Oregon marlakay Nov 2020 #40

How? In the Civil War there were entire discrete states that wanted to secede as a group The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2020 #16

NY is a red state that looks blue because of NYC's massive voting block... TreasonousBastard Nov 2020 #37

It couldn't work, and wouldn't. crickets Nov 2020 #63

I agree. There's no way to do it without causing something worse. The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2020 #64

Being very old, H2O Man Nov 2020 #19

I feel the same MA Mom Nov 2020 #21

Here's the problem as I see it. Turin_C3PO Nov 2020 #30

We could start our own currency, social programs, and tax laws. Yavin4 Nov 2020 #34

Secession is out (remember the last time we tried it?) and I have no answer... TreasonousBastard Nov 2020 #32

Works for me! Buckeye_Democrat Nov 2020 #33

That question was answered in 1865. The answer was no. Fiendish Thingy Nov 2020 #38

Secession ain't gonna happen. Wednesdays Nov 2020 #43

At this point we are two countries, intertwined. Look at the history of Pakistan/India partition... Hekate Nov 2020 #45

Then there's little to no hope. Yavin4 Nov 2020 #46

We just keep slogging. My POV changed forever with Bush v Gore 20 years ago... Hekate Nov 2020 #56

You're talking sense. Thank you. nt crickets Nov 2020 #62

Let's, although I seem to recall sarisataka Nov 2020 #48

No... NurseJackie Nov 2020 #50

Why? How? Tommy_Carcetti Nov 2020 #51

No budkin Nov 2020 #52

How are we going to unite? Blaukraut Nov 2020 #53

So, over on Facebook this topic came up. I came up with some thoughts. GoneOffShore Nov 2020 #54

I'm in. Roisin Ni Fiachra Nov 2020 #55

I feel we're just too unstable to hold this much power in the world. ego_nation Nov 2020 #60

"We need a common enemy to unite us." moondust Nov 2020 #61

Perhaps, so. How do you propose we split your state (NY) up? Captain Stern Nov 2020 #65

NO csziggy Nov 2020 #66

Yep. We each choose our government (red or blue), then go from there ecstatic Nov 2020 #68

I think it's inevitable that it will eventually come to that. Crunchy Frog Nov 2020 #69

Can't we just kick out 5 red states, instead? nt coti Nov 2020 #72

I do think that secession could work, even today, . . . wackadoo wabbit Nov 2020 #73

It's been by dream for years Polybius Nov 2020 #74