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still_one

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3. For those who don't remember what happened with the ACA, here is a walk down memory lane
Tue Nov 10, 2020, 08:57 PM
Nov 2020

The U.S. House of Representatives was safely Democratic as a result of the Nov. 4, 2008, elections by a margin of 257 – 199; the Democrats had gained 21 seats from the 2006-07 Congress. The real interesting ACA political dynamics began during the November 2008 U.S. Senate elections.

Going into the 2008 elections, the Senate consisted of 49 Democrats, 49 Republicans, and two Independents (Joe Lieberman of Connecticut and Bernie Sanders of Vermont) who caucused with the Democrats. When the smoke cleared from those elections, the Democrats picked up eight seats to increase their majority to 57-41 (although Democrat Al Franken’s recount victory was not official until July 7). With the two Independents, the Democrats were one vote shy of the supermajority magic number of 60 they needed to ward off any filibuster attempts and move forward with broad healthcare reform legislation.

But on April 28, 2009, the dynamics changed when Pennsylvania Republican Arlen Spector changed parties, giving Senate Democrats that coveted 60th vote.
Now the Democrats had a safe majority in the House and a filibuster-proof supermajority of 60 in the Senate. That scenario lasted only four months before fate intervened. Sen. Ted Kennedy of Massachusetts died on August 25, 2009, leaving the Democrats, once again, with 59 seats (counting the two Independents). Exactly one month later, on September 25, Democrat Paul Kirk was appointed interim senator from Massachusetts to serve until the special election set for January 19, 2010 – once again giving the Democrats that 60th vote. But the intrigue was just beginning.

There didn’t seem to be an urgent need for Democrats to reconcile both bills immediately, because the Massachusetts special election (scheduled for January 19, 2010) was almost certain to fall to the Democrat, Attorney General Martha Coakley. After all, no Republican had been elected to the U.S. Senate from the Bay State since Edward Brooke in 1972 – 38 years before! But in yet another twist of fate, Republican Scott Brown ran his campaign as the 41st senator against ObamaCare and shocked nearly everyone by winning the special election by 110,000 votes.
That left House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and President Obama in a dilemma. Everyone assumed that the Christmas Eve 2009 Senate bill would be tweaked considerably to conform more with the House bill passed two months previously. But now that strategy wouldn’t work, because the Democrats no longer had the 60th vote in the Senate to end debate. What to do? They decided to have the House take up the identical bill that the Senate passed on Christmas Eve. It passed on March 21, 2010, by a 219 – 212 vote. This time, no Republicans came on board, and 34 Democrats voted against. President Obama signed the ACA legislation two days later on March 23.

The fact is we needed every Democratic vote to pass the ACA because not only did no republican vote for it, but lieberman, both nelsons, one in Florida and one in Nebraska, Blanch Lincoln, birch bayh made it clear they would not vote for Medicare for all, or single payer, and we needed every vote just to get what we have today

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I hear you and your frustration; plus, I share them. Outrageous! n/t CaliforniaPeggy Nov 2020 #1
I remember MiniMe Nov 2020 #2
For those who don't remember what happened with the ACA, here is a walk down memory lane still_one Nov 2020 #3
Thanks. NT enough Nov 2020 #5
Thank you for that and to be clear.. Cheezoholic Nov 2020 #7
Thank-you. still_one Nov 2020 #9
People seem to forget this part In It to Win It Nov 2020 #8
And since those conservative Democrats were booted, we have been able to get nothing...we Demsrule86 Nov 2020 #12
bart stupak Hyde Amendment fed dollars Cerridwen Nov 2020 #17
Yes - that was the final piece BumRushDaShow Nov 2020 #21
Good post. Notably, Franken was illicitly kept from being seated Hortensis Nov 2020 #18
Don't forget this guy - BumRushDaShow Nov 2020 #20
Lots of compromises were necessary to get something, but I think Hoyt Nov 2020 #4
I don't recall single payer being on the table. It would have never made it past the Senate In It to Win It Nov 2020 #6
It still won't be passed in the house...if we get the senate maybe a public option. Demsrule86 Nov 2020 #11
I don't disagree In It to Win It Nov 2020 #13
It wasn't "through the Democrats". It was "couldn't get it through Lieberman" BumRushDaShow Nov 2020 #22
Lieberman caucused with Democrats, so there I include Lieberman in "Democrats". In It to Win It Nov 2020 #24
Yes except there were basically ONLY 2 in the Senate BumRushDaShow Nov 2020 #25
Those are facts that I do not argue. My position is broad. My only point is that we could not In It to Win It Nov 2020 #26
Yes I agree and that was unfortunate due to a pair of show-boaters BumRushDaShow Nov 2020 #27
Yes, that's right. I don't know where the OP heard that. ehrnst Nov 2020 #15
It was -- as an OPTION. The ACA was not "basically single payer." Hortensis Nov 2020 #19
The ACA made America belive health care was a right...so I love it...but we need the Senate Demsrule86 Nov 2020 #10
Welcome to DU greenjar_01 Nov 2020 #14
The penalty (mandate BS?) was $100 USD, that's it? Brainfodder Nov 2020 #16
It was never single payer. The votes were not there Demsrule86 Nov 2020 #23
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