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crickets

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19. I don't care if trump tries to pardon himself, or gets Pence to do it.
Tue Nov 24, 2020, 12:20 PM
Nov 2020
Weissmann concluded, “In short, being president should mean you are more accountable, not less, to the rule of law.”


Yes. Strike down any attempt at a pardon. Not only should it be made clear that no president is allowed to self-pardon, no president should get a pardon. That should be one of the many things a president gives but never receives. No president should ever, ever again feel that he can away with anything as long as he has his get out of jail free card.

Despite the fact that the Mueller Investigation ultimately found no evidence of Russian collusion


Oh, we could go on all day about what that sentence really means, but there should be a proper investigation into collusion. The Mueller Investigation ended up being less than comprehensive in some ways, to put it kindly, and we have yet to see the entire report. Do over on that one, big time.

Go after him for federal crimes. I'm pretty sure trump's on the hook for international crimes. Throw the book at him again and again, every single book we can find. We will never again know true peace as a country if we don't.
Yes Skraxx Nov 2020 #1
Divide nothing. Kid Berwyn Nov 2020 #2
Let's hope they also drop the republiCON party. KS Toronado Nov 2020 #21
Absolutely. Kid Berwyn Nov 2020 #52
July 4, 2018 -- 7 Senators and a Representative were in Moscow Ponietz Nov 2020 #60
Putin's coup Eyeball_Kid Nov 2020 #68
Names? Who were the Senators? wnylib Nov 2020 #72
The Prostrate Eight Ponietz Nov 2020 #78
This photo was absolutely chilling. Russia pulled off a coup. BarbD Nov 2020 #88
CAPTION: "Can you believe I just gave a whole bunch of TOP SECRET Israili military secrets... TrollBuster9090 Nov 2020 #91
No trc Nov 2020 #42
Fine, let the Deplorables believe what they want. Kid Berwyn Nov 2020 #50
+1000 triron Nov 2020 #51
Exactly! robbob Nov 2020 #46
Gross criminal dereliction of duty might be a good starting point. Kid Berwyn Nov 2020 #57
Including the ones who wore t-shirts supporting Russia? colorado_ufo Nov 2020 #59
We already know he is Putin's puppet and his base sticks with him. Barbara2423 Nov 2020 #67
Of course his base would need harder evidence of being in Vlad's pocket , I'd expect that. uponit7771 Nov 2020 #80
Willful ignorance orangecrush Nov 2020 #98
Lock him up! soothsayer Nov 2020 #3
"Mr. Trump's criminal exposure is clear." Botany Nov 2020 #4
yes for sure. triron Nov 2020 #24
Trump actively worked with Russia to rig our elections and now we have 1/4 million dead Americans Botany Nov 2020 #28
Kick dalton99a Nov 2020 #5
I recall the policy that the POTUS cannot be indicted treestar Nov 2020 #6
It is an opinion, I don't think it is a policy, and whether its one or not it needs to be scratched Escurumbele Nov 2020 #34
We have this oh so perfect Constitution that lets us remove a corrupt President..... groundloop Nov 2020 #63
Exactly! treestar Nov 2020 #71
No more taking things off the table. No more looking forward/ CrispyQ Nov 2020 #7
I agree. I dislike the language I am hearing about not wanting to be weighed down with Trump crimes. LizBeth Nov 2020 #69
This holds some serious weight. I can't see how Biden's AG can ignore this. Native Nov 2020 #8
I could not agree more. ShazzieB Nov 2020 #61
Yup BarackTheVote Nov 2020 #9
That line should have been drawn in 1865 Ponietz Nov 2020 #11
You right BarackTheVote Nov 2020 #14
Couldn't agree more. better Nov 2020 #18
I'd argue it also hurts our brands BarackTheVote Nov 2020 #22
Too many people still seem to tow that old line-- BlancheSplanchnik Nov 2020 #105
Appeasement has never been a successful policy. BarbD Nov 2020 #89
Gee, Andy. It's a shame you and your colleagues couldn't write this clearly last year n/t DonaldsRump Nov 2020 #10
that is mostly (all?) on Mueller and his not being up to the task Celerity Nov 2020 #32
Nope. Anyone of these people could have resigned and explained why DonaldsRump Nov 2020 #35
I do not think (you can correct me if I am wrong) that it would have been legal for Weissmann to Celerity Nov 2020 #39
He sure could...by going to the House which could give him immunity DonaldsRump Nov 2020 #41
oki, thank you Celerity Nov 2020 #43
No worries DonaldsRump Nov 2020 #70
I agree that Trump should be prosecuted pandr32 Nov 2020 #12
This has to be done. patphil Nov 2020 #13
I am convinced the Constitution dies without justice Ponietz Nov 2020 #58
Accepting a pardon is an admission of guilt, is it not? OMGWTF Nov 2020 #15
Yes. Volaris Nov 2020 #31
Not necessarily... thesquanderer Nov 2020 #64
How's that States Rights safeinOhio Nov 2020 #16
I agree but you did a disservice to the country with the final report that should have been Pepsidog Nov 2020 #17
That is exactly right DonaldsRump Nov 2020 #38
I don't care if trump tries to pardon himself, or gets Pence to do it. crickets Nov 2020 #19
And prosecute Barr as an accomplice as well! world wide wally Nov 2020 #20
He can not be allowed to walk. nt Hotler Nov 2020 #23
Sounds like a pretty strong suggestion. triron Nov 2020 #25
Joe would win the 2024 election as soon as the guilty verdict Roisin Ni Fiachra Nov 2020 #26
But....but.... BobTheSubgenius Nov 2020 #27
What will divide the country is to not seek accountability, and it will definitely hurt the Escurumbele Nov 2020 #29
Agree! burrowowl Nov 2020 #79
totally agree cynical_idealist Nov 2020 #84
Agree. Once again, I hope for accountability. It does not appear to be Dems forte. Evolve Dammit Nov 2020 #103
And why wasn't the Mueller team able to accomplished this? 33taw Nov 2020 #30
Maybe just bring back Mueller? zaj Nov 2020 #33
And expose those people who supported Trump and Russia's rat fucking of our elections Botany Nov 2020 #36
Anyone remember what John Bolton said a few months back? ScratchCat Nov 2020 #37
He and his colleagues had their chance eissa Nov 2020 #40
Andrew Weissman for Assistant AG Mr. Ected Nov 2020 #44
Why not AG? triron Nov 2020 #81
I'm kind of partial to Sally Yates - or Preet Bharara Mr. Ected Nov 2020 #83
I like Yates. triron Nov 2020 #86
Mueller is a republican llashram Nov 2020 #45
proper prosecution will create a prophylactic effect available by no other means - there can be no bringthePaine Nov 2020 #47
Well said. c-rational Nov 2020 #85
This is why we need a pit bull prosecutor for AG dlk Nov 2020 #48
If Trump pardons himself before leaving office and SCOTUS rules that he can do that,........... W T F Nov 2020 #49
This is one key to healing. ancianita Nov 2020 #53
KnR...nt N_E_1 for Tennis Nov 2020 #54
He made life miserable for America and the World, now let him feel it. NT. SayItLoud Nov 2020 #55
Fuck their feelings, prosecute. We need boundaries for all. 58Sunliner Nov 2020 #56
There's so much more. The obstruction allegations in the Mueller Report is just the beginning. Eyeball_Kid Nov 2020 #62
Bonus: Anyone he pardons may be prevented from taking the fifth in a subsequent investigation n/t thesquanderer Nov 2020 #65
Pardons issued with a "corrupt intent" should be null and void. AmericanCanuck Nov 2020 #66
I have said that I didn't believe the Establishment would go after him, but after the last month OnDoutside Nov 2020 #73
YES! Cha Nov 2020 #74
Bring it on... Blue Owl Nov 2020 #75
AMEN! PROSECUTE FULLY! budkin Nov 2020 #76
That's good, but nothing happened after the Mueller investigation. Why do you napi21 Nov 2020 #77
Your post makes no sense whatsoever. triron Nov 2020 #82
knr triron Nov 2020 #87
Not just the mob boss, but all of his enablers, the "we were just following orders" cRew. Lock him up. Nov 2020 #90
Not sure how far this should go. triron Nov 2020 #94
It should go everywhere where crimes were committed. Lock him up. Nov 2020 #95
I'll tell you how I'D like to see it play out. Biden nominates some 'centrist' AG, and while the TrollBuster9090 Nov 2020 #92
I hope the megalomaniac tries to pardon himself as opposed to resigning ecstatic Nov 2020 #93
Any nation which can be "further divided" by the prosecutiion of actual violations soldierant Nov 2020 #96
This! Botany Nov 2020 #97
I see obstacles bucolic_frolic Nov 2020 #99
A full impartial investigation by the DOJ must proceed into what the Trump administration did UCmeNdc Nov 2020 #100
Hmm. Iggo Nov 2020 #101
It was funny how Mueller seemed to cave UCmeNdc Nov 2020 #102
Mueller was 'Barred'. triron Nov 2020 #104
Sadly, nothing will happen. nt Hotler Nov 2020 #106
I agree Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Nov 2020 #107
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