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Mike 03

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26. Masha Gessen's first warning: "Your institutions won't save you."

Thu Dec 10, 2020, 11:19 AM

Dec 2020

The media keeps waiting for our Constitutional Crisis.

We've been in a Constitutional Crisis from the first day that the White House refused to obey a subpoena or turn over demanded documents.

The moment the Executive Branch disabled the oversight function of the Congress, we were in trouble.

That was years ago.

Kick and Rec.

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I'm sick of hearing "Our Institutions have Held" [View all] maxrandb Dec 2020 OP

No shit. Joinfortmill Dec 2020 #1

Media integrity and facilitation of healthy public discourse, my ASS! K n r. wiggs Dec 2020 #2

And they are still worried about safeinOhio Dec 2020 #3

if our institutions did not hold, trump be serving another term and they be coming for US to put in beachbumbob Dec 2020 #4

THANK you! StarfishSaver Dec 2020 #23

not sure for what but I tire of the handwringing beachbumbob Dec 2020 #29

Thank God StarfishSaver Dec 2020 #35

That can't be the litmus test because at that point it's way too late. Mike 03 Dec 2020 #30

Great point. n/t OneGrassRoot Dec 2020 #42

He also said that when you see militia in the streets, it's over. Grasswire2 Dec 2020 #50

The problem in Congress was/is Mitch McConnell . McConnell IS the problem even without Trump JI7 Dec 2020 #53

You forgot to mention, gab13by13 Dec 2020 #5

I agree Bettie Dec 2020 #6

compliance to subpoenas WERE NOT ENFORCED by Pelosi, lets set the record straight beachbumbob Dec 2020 #31

They were not enforced Bettie Dec 2020 #47

Yes, our institutions have held against the weakest, non-charismatic, laziest, wannabe dictator Yeehah Dec 2020 #7

THIS -- gets to the point. We probably have one chance to fix this without experiencing KPN Dec 2020 #48

If you can't hear the death rattle of these institutions Mr. Ected Dec 2020 #8

I'm really ready for a divorce from red-state America. They are only dragging the country down. Lonestarblue Dec 2020 #17

Draw huge circles around cities and large population centers Mr. Ected Dec 2020 #18

sitting back and being impotent is how we got here in the first place beachbumbob Dec 2020 #32

Agree! mountain grammy Dec 2020 #9

KNR niyad Dec 2020 #10

If there were a Deep State it would never have allowed all this to happen bucolic_frolic Dec 2020 #11

It's like the successful British defense against the Nazis in the Battle of Britain. Mister Ed Dec 2020 #12

+1000 Thekaspervote Dec 2020 #25

K&R NoRoadUntravelled Dec 2020 #13

Then do something about it. You also have the option to give up. Kaleva Dec 2020 #14

1000% agree Locrian Dec 2020 #15

It's like giving your two year old child a can of gasoline and a box of matches Ferrets are Cool Dec 2020 #16

You make some very good points about what the GOP got away with by supporting Trump. Nitram Dec 2020 #19

Thank you StarfishSaver Dec 2020 #24

this llashram Dec 2020 #20

The institution is badly broken, being held together by superglue. The cracks left will be exploited yaesu Dec 2020 #21

I beg to differ. Everyone knows the universe is currently held together by duct tape. Nitram Dec 2020 #28

Washington Post writers David Maraniss and Robert Samuels: betsuni Dec 2020 #22

☝️☝️☝️☝️☝️☝️ Thekaspervote Dec 2020 #27

Thank you SO much for posting this! StarfishSaver Dec 2020 #34

You're welcome. Exactly what you said. betsuni Dec 2020 #37

+1 Well said. Triumph often comes close behind those times when we were almost ready to give c-rational Dec 2020 #38

Yes, Seems people are not very aware of the history of this country JI7 Dec 2020 #52

+1 betsuni Dec 2020 #54

Masha Gessen's first warning: "Your institutions won't save you." Mike 03 Dec 2020 #26

Umm, my media declared us in a Constitutional Crisis in 2017. That's the Washington Nitram Dec 2020 #33

K&R smirkymonkey Dec 2020 #36

they've only held in the most minimal way possible and we're not out of the woods yet LymphocyteLover Dec 2020 #39

It's *Factually* True Roy Rolling Dec 2020 #40

Well said! dlk Dec 2020 #41

It's better than the alternative. TwilightZone Dec 2020 #43

Agree, and it is not over. He and his ilk will inflict as much pain as possible, until they die. Evolve Dammit Dec 2020 #44

Held? It is the flaws in our institutions which brought us to this. jaxexpat Dec 2020 #45

Yes. cwydro Dec 2020 #46

AG Barr and FBI Director Wray could have tanked Joe Biden before the election, Baked Potato Dec 2020 #49

THIS. Mike Niendorff Dec 2020 #51