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davekriss

(4,616 posts)
31. A Senator and Congressperson ...
Sun Dec 13, 2020, 04:42 PM
Dec 2020

..., at least 1 from each, have to stand up for the objection. In so doing, it forces the House and Senate to adjourn to separate chambers. Therein they debate the matter and vote. If a simple majority in both houses reject the state’s electors, it goes back to the governor of the state who then presumably has to follow their state-constitutional remedy. Since on January 5 we still have 222 Congresspeople, there’s not a chance in hell that the Republicans will prevail. But, then, we’ve been living in hell these past 4 years.

Imagine the Republican goons doing this for each state Biden won. What a circus!!

On edit: I see, Freddie, that you already understood this (i.e., the need for majorities in both houses), no need for my reply. But I’ll let it stand.

On second edit: I was wrong, above, where I said it goes back to the state’s governor. The guv’s work is done once he or she certifies results. If I now understand correctly, state’s votes where an objection carries with majorities in each the Senate and the House are set aside, not “resolved” by the state’s governor. Another point where I’m unclear is what happens as states are stripped of their votes. They don’t go to the other contestant. If Biden lost Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Minnesota, and Georgia, he’d still have more electoral votes than Trump (234 to 232). He’d have ‘the majority of electors present’, which is what the Constitution requires. Does he win? Or must the winner have 270, which means this gets tossed to the state houses where each state gets 1 vote and Trump wins (26 to 24 votes). Someone more knowledgeable than me, please sort this out.

Of course they will. Runningdawg Dec 2020 #1
EFFING EFFERS Faux pas Dec 2020 #2
My thoughts exactly! FM123 Dec 2020 #40
An attempt to challenge in Congress will fail. Happy Hoosier Dec 2020 #3
Even if it gets that far Freddie Dec 2020 #8
A Senator and Congressperson ... davekriss Dec 2020 #31
I can see them making it a circus Freddie Dec 2020 #33
Suppose we did not treestar Dec 2020 #38
Yeah, well, it's another stunt by the Freedumb Caucus that's doomed to fail. We control the House catbyte Dec 2020 #4
Yup, and Nancy should threaten them: dare do it & u will not be seated onetexan Dec 2020 #5
Keep Dreaming sfstaxprep Dec 2020 #7
Hey, no different than the shenanigans they're attempting. Two can play this game. onetexan Dec 2020 #16
She can't refuse to seat them on the basis they did something they're entitled to do by law StarfishSaver Dec 2020 #10
She hardly can threaten for utilizing a process that is expressly spelled out in the US Code onenote Dec 2020 #14
They are seated before the electoral college count bottomofthehill Dec 2020 #27
Now THAT could be defined as sedition. edit: Well, maybe not. Kablooie Dec 2020 #6
This is a procedure provided by law and that they're fully entitled to do StarfishSaver Dec 2020 #11
Didn't know that. Oh well. Kablooie Dec 2020 #18
Those same procedure you don't like because some people try to exploit them StarfishSaver Dec 2020 #20
Do you have an example of when "we" engaged in the same process while knowing usajumpedtheshark Dec 2020 #30
That is beside the point StarfishSaver Dec 2020 #35
On what basis should I accept that what you say is factual instead of opinion? usajumpedtheshark Dec 2020 #41
You could simply look it up yourself. StarfishSaver Dec 2020 #43
Thanks, but I aleady read it. I have always believed that it was up to the Supreme Court to usajumpedtheshark Dec 2020 #44
Apparently, you are unaware that the Supreme Court has already interpreted this StarfishSaver Dec 2020 #45
You are funny. Do you always view questioning of your statements as a sign of hostility? usajumpedtheshark Dec 2020 #47
The process for members of Congress to challenge electoral votes is unambiguously spelled out onenote Dec 2020 #46
It may surprise you to hear this but I have researched this usajumpedtheshark Dec 2020 #49
StarfishSaver, you are really WhiteTara Dec 2020 #32
Precisely, hence why PA's AG labelled it "seditious abuse of the judicial process" onetexan Dec 2020 #19
And it will again be said that there is no way that these representatives can be punished usajumpedtheshark Dec 2020 #9
There is no way for them to be "punished" for invoking a procedure that is enshrined in law. onenote Dec 2020 #17
Thanks for pointing this out StarfishSaver Dec 2020 #21
We Also Tried In 2005, With Barbara Boxer Signing On sfstaxprep Dec 2020 #25
In another post you say it is okay to punish these representatives usajumpedtheshark Dec 2020 #34
If you look at the context of the discussion, we were talking about "punishing" them StarfishSaver Dec 2020 #36
I was not limiting punishment solely to what the legal system could impose. usajumpedtheshark Dec 2020 #29
The 'Plot' was predictable... Septua Dec 2020 #12
Typical Raw Story hyperbole. onenote Dec 2020 #13
If they challenge the election, It will be over in a short time.Both retire to their own caucuses... Demsrule86 Dec 2020 #15
Not necessarily a short time. They can spend two hours debating each objection onenote Dec 2020 #22
This..hse and senate both have to agree on the objection...will never happen Thekaspervote Dec 2020 #23
They absolutely will try that. David__77 Dec 2020 #24
And they will just add another loss to their column. William769 Dec 2020 #26
It may make for a very long day bottomofthehill Dec 2020 #28
If the purpose of action is an attempt to overturn a free and fair election for the sole purpose of Chainfire Dec 2020 #37
Well this tactic means in the future, a rightfully elected President could be denied andym Dec 2020 #39
Raw Story is clowning itself greenjar_01 Dec 2020 #42
Raw Story must have been a bad influence on Politico usajumpedtheshark Dec 2020 #48
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