Wrong, Symph. The GOP did not attack their wingnuts & were themselves absorbed by wingnuts... (Reply #40)

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Mon Dec 21, 2020, 03:17 PM

Hekate (68,030 posts)

40. Wrong, Symph. The GOP did not attack their wingnuts & were themselves absorbed by wingnuts...

How the hell do you think we got here? The GOP of my youth is gone. Eisenhower would not recognize its rotting corpse. There are no conservative intellectuals the rest of us can thoughtfully refute, there are Proud Boys ranting.

Nixon’s Southern Strategy was to embrace the racist Dixiecrats like long-lost brothers.

Instead of kicking Newt Gingrich out they embraced him. Instead of telling the Tea Partiers to pipe down, the said “Wow, we can use this energy to destroy John Kerry and smear him as a coward instead of the war hero he really is.”

At every step of the way the GOP embraced the Far Right, and now look where they are. Look where the country is.

Beware extremists.

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Other than Katie Porter & a couple others, the Democratic Party STILL doesn't know how to fight back [View all]	mtnsnake	Dec 2020	OP
Yeah! Blame the Democrats!	sweetloukillbot	Dec 2020	#1
I don't want to sit back and watch them do nothing like you obviously prefer to do.	mtnsnake	Dec 2020	#4
What specific actions do you want	wnylib	Dec 2020	#124
THIS	soldierant	Dec 2020	#143
Beautiful!	StarfishSaver	Dec 2020	#153
⭐⭐ PERFECT! ⭐⭐	NurseJackie	Dec 2020	#160
Thank you!	betsuni	Dec 2020	#162
10-4 that.	fleabiscuit	Dec 2020	#280
why do so many DUers assume the only action we take is beefing here?	Skittles	Dec 2020	#181
So tell us more about the actions.	wnylib	Dec 2020	#199
the bar is set very low for repukes	Skittles	Dec 2020	#224
Where is the outrage?	wnylib	Dec 2020	#242
ok, done here	Skittles	Dec 2020	#252
Interesting that I was thinking it	wnylib	Dec 2020	#255
Not sure how you can read wnylib's post and assume anything went over their head	StarfishSaver	Dec 2020	#258
Agreed. Why win elections when you could scream on tv? nt	mattclearing	Dec 2020	#288
Excellent perspective	msfiddlestix	Dec 2020	#302
Thank you.	sheshe2	Dec 2020	#190
Yes, we the people have as much	wnylib	Dec 2020	#207
People are going to have to get more involved and invested in society if change is happening.	betsuni	Dec 2020	#219
In order to evolve...	sheshe2	Dec 2020	#243
The solution given here is for more protests in the streets, strong language,	betsuni	Dec 2020	#244
It's a thousand times better than your plan	mtnsnake	Dec 2020	#245
When did I have a plan to do nothing and sit back?	betsuni	Dec 2020	#248
It's easier to attack a strawman than to admit that one doesn't have a	ehrnst	Dec 2020	#291
I really wanted to know how I had a terrible plan to sit back and do nothing!	betsuni	Dec 2020	#306
Apparently if you don't demand that Dems "scream bloody murder on TV every day"	ehrnst	Dec 2020	#310
Hm.	sheshe2	Dec 2020	#247
I agree. It just doesn't work that way. Democratic voters aren't like Republican voters who don't	betsuni	Dec 2020	#250
I've never understood why some Democrats think the only way to beat Republicans	StarfishSaver	Dec 2020	#259
All the complaints that Democrats are Republican Lite and so on and now this.	betsuni	Dec 2020	#263
I find the "Democrats need to scream louder" to be the most immature form of political engagenent	StarfishSaver	Dec 2020	#266
Yes. Emotion, anger and loud screaming as "fighting" is immature.	betsuni	Dec 2020	#268
Betsuni, every Republican out there will surely agree with you	mtnsnake	Dec 2020	#271
I don't know where you're getting the "roll over and play dead" thing.	betsuni	Dec 2020	#273
False dilemma AND a strawman fallacy	ehrnst	Dec 2020	#289
There is nothing more immature than posting the same exact thing a dozen times in 1 thread	mtnsnake	Dec 2020	#270
Point taken and I agree.	sheshe2	Dec 2020	#269
Beautifully said, as usual	StarfishSaver	Dec 2020	#275
Thank you.	sheshe2	Dec 2020	#278
It's certainly working well for MAGA crowd - Maybe we need to get flags and trucks?	sweetloukillbot	Dec 2020	#309
Thank you, wnylib	Hekate	Dec 2020	#196
Sorry, wnylib, with umpteen posts in the trhead I didnt see your post until just a while ago	mtnsnake	Dec 2020	#217
+1000	Maven	Dec 2020	#220
Your point about messaging is	wnylib	Dec 2020	#251
+1	betsuni	Dec 2020	#256
Well said	mtnsnake	Dec 2020	#257
+1 to all three of you!	Bettie	Dec 2020	#260
Okay, I'll play	Maven	Dec 2020	#218
Awesome post, Maven	mtnsnake	Dec 2020	#222
Thank you!	Maven	Dec 2020	#226
Yep, our party...yes, OUR party	Bettie	Dec 2020	#297
Thank YOU!	smirkymonkey	Dec 2020	#136
No problem	mtnsnake	Dec 2020	#148
Passivity?	StarfishSaver	Dec 2020	#191
I was amused by this claim also	Gothmog	Dec 2020	#329
You can tell the people who aren't really interested in progress but just want to complain	StarfishSaver	Dec 2020	#330
+10000000000000000	betsuni	Dec 2020	#331
Agreed. Asking our folks to fight harder is NOT blaming them but coaching them	samsingh	Dec 2020	#149
So what are you looking for? Have you ever been involved in legislation or negotiations....	George II	Dec 2020	#193
You are wrong in your analysis	Gothmog	Dec 2020	#328
Yeah, a few more stern letters will work any day now. nt	Doremus	Dec 2020	#6
The Dems being seen as weak allows people to think that both parties don't represent the people	DSandra	Dec 2020	#39
The Democrat That Said Trump Should Be Arrested On Jan 20 As He Leaves The White House?	DanieRains	Dec 2020	#132
If anyone surrendered before a fight began in any other setting, it's be seen as betrayal	DSandra	Dec 2020	#166
Weak Dem image suppresses voter turnout???	wnylib	Dec 2020	#138
Actions must be bold. Language must be bold. When bullies bluster and threaten, get in their face.	Magoo48	Dec 2020	#154
Like the stern letter about the coronavirus stimulus plan signed by Bernie Sanders and five other	betsuni	Dec 2020	#141
+10000.	ehrnst	Dec 2020	#295
I hate to say it, but you have a good point. They do need to be taking	OnDoutside	Dec 2020	#2
Tend to agree somewhat.	triron	Dec 2020	#7
Yes, there's no reason why Democrats can't be strident in taking	OnDoutside	Dec 2020	#60
Maybe you missed these?	ehrnst	Dec 2020	#298
I agree. We need better communicators. Porter puts the message in "kitchen table" terms	Raven123	Dec 2020	#3
Exactly. Our people are great people & super intelligent but	mtnsnake	Dec 2020	#8
Yes, MUCH better communicators needed.	elleng	Dec 2020	#31
Why do you think communication is the problem?	StarfishSaver	Dec 2020	#36
I have never said that 'screaming and yelling' would change any minds.	elleng	Dec 2020	#57
So does AOC. And Swalwell. And Brian Schatz. And many others.	Maven	Dec 2020	#131
They're our hope for the future.	WinstonSmith4740	Dec 2020	#158
Committee Assignments	sheshe2	Dec 2020	#261
Apart from all that, what have the Romans ever done for us? nt	fleabiscuit	Dec 2020	#281
...	betsuni	Dec 2020	#282
...	sheshe2	Dec 2020	#320
...	fleabiscuit	Dec 2020	#325
Screaming bloody murder is still just talking.	Walleye	Dec 2020	#5
Well, for starters, since you asked	mtnsnake	Dec 2020	#12
No I agree. But, it's still just talking and no one is listening.	Walleye	Dec 2020	#14
I'm sure that Mitch McConnell will vote to impeach him if we yell louder	sweetloukillbot	Dec 2020	#19
Yes, Mitch and the Trump humpers TOTALLY respond to yelling on the part of Democratic leaders.	ehrnst	Dec 2020	#304
And what will the result of that be?	StarfishSaver	Dec 2020	#20
Who are you even talking about?	Budi	Dec 2020	#23
Sitting on their thumbs? Like this?	ehrnst	Dec 2020	#299
'It's Treason.' House Democrats Seize On 'Transcript' of Trump's Ukraine Call	ehrnst	Dec 2020	#303
Yell it louder, slower and sound really really mad when we do it	StarfishSaver	Dec 2020	#13
Do you honestly think the "Trump is undermining democracy" meme hasn't gotten us anywhere?	mtnsnake	Dec 2020	#22
How exactly do you think Democrats going on tv and screaming bloody murder is going to change their	StarfishSaver	Dec 2020	#24
If you don't know what screaming bloody murder is, then that explains	mtnsnake	Dec 2020	#34
Nice dodge. But since you seem to be an expert on screaming bloody murder	StarfishSaver	Dec 2020	#47
Nice try	mtnsnake	Dec 2020	#56
And an effective try. nt	fleabiscuit	Dec 2020	#283
+1000. When one can't articulate what is demanding, then the likelihood of getting that demand	ehrnst	Dec 2020	#293
This is a valid and constructive critique of the party's strategy that in no way violates DU rules.	Towlie	Dec 2020	#9
Appreciate this.	cilla4progress	Dec 2020	#27
Thank you.	mtnsnake	Dec 2020	#38
Agree!	mountain grammy	Dec 2020	#93
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Maybe not.	Towlie	Dec 2020	#50
Post removed	Post removed	Dec 2020	#109
Yeah. Who cares about the Senate	kcr	Dec 2020	#116
Thanks for making my point	LiberalLovinLug	Dec 2020	#151
Oh, right. 2010? How did that turnout?	kcr	Dec 2020	#169
Amen	Hekate	Dec 2020	#201
Correct.	betsuni	Dec 2020	#208
Well, J try and stay on topic. There are plenty of other Republican bashing threads.	LiberalLovinLug	Dec 2020	#277
Democrats had a 60 vote filibuster-proof majority in the senate for all of four months and ten days	betsuni	Dec 2020	#279
About the topic of public support for M4A, since you brought it into the discussion...	ehrnst	Dec 2020	#301
What many advocates of the as-yet incomplete "M4A" (there still are huge funding gaps!) do is...	George II	Dec 2020	#311
Yes, specificity seems to be in short supply in some quarters.	ehrnst	Dec 2020	#312
Well, LLL, Staying on topic...and using your sports analogy:	ehrnst	Dec 2020	#307
+1000!	mcar	Dec 2020	#314
A majority of Americans do NOT support "M4A". Not even close to a majority.	George II	Dec 2020	#313
Those attacks began even before Obama was sworn in. He was being bashed for some of his...	George II	Dec 2020	#300
+1	betsuni	Dec 2020	#305
+1000.	ehrnst	Dec 2020	#308
Oh yeah? What "Point" was that?	Cha	Dec 2020	#315
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Thank you for letting me know	mtnsnake	Dec 2020	#221
This is hardly the first discussion like this	treestar	Dec 2020	#97
I don't feel like a piece of software.I feel like a DU member who said I'd be willing to be on Jury	Hekate	Dec 2020	#111
I've had posts hidden for questioning the importance of dry powder	Orrex	Dec 2020	#135
But constructive criticism IS allowed. But that not welcome often.	Laura PourMeADrink	Dec 2020	#179
Perhaps blaming Democrats causes more damage	Demsrule86	Dec 2020	#11
Groupthink is not good as well, it doesn't allow for justified critiques and is ultimately harmful	DSandra	Dec 2020	#26
Once more, with feeling: Hillary lost the Electoral College in a game of peeling off fringes...	Hekate	Dec 2020	#95
+1	betsuni	Dec 2020	#159
There was still significant room for improvement in Hillary's Campaign	DSandra	Dec 2020	#176
The fact is, Clinton lost.......in 2016. Now in 2020 Biden won. But people are still complaining....	George II	Dec 2020	#241
Republicans don't attack their right flank. We attack our left nonstop	Sympthsical	Dec 2020	#16
+10,000	mtnsnake	Dec 2020	#25
Wrong, Symph. The GOP did not attack their wingnuts & were themselves absorbed by wingnuts...	Hekate	Dec 2020	#40
correct	treestar	Dec 2020	#80
Many of us object to AOC going after Democrats instead of Republicans	mcar	Dec 2020	#41
Did you object when Pelosi endorsed Joe Kennedy over incumbent Markey?	Bradshaw3	Dec 2020	#91
Does Pelosi regularly slam Democrats	mcar	Dec 2020	#210
+1	fleabiscuit	Dec 2020	#284
+1	betsuni	Dec 2020	#285
+1000.	ehrnst	Dec 2020	#292
That's funny because when she goes after, say, Marco Rubio	Bettie	Dec 2020	#92
I didn't complain about that	mcar	Dec 2020	#117
Huh? She goes after Republicans and their policies CONSTANTLY	Maven	Dec 2020	#229
True. I keep an eye on her. She's slammin' Republicans, Rubio the 2024 contender especially.	ancianita	Dec 2020	#327
The left is Nancy Pelosi	JI7	Dec 2020	#43
Yep.	mcar	Dec 2020	#211
AOC on Pelosi: "her personal politics are very progressive."	betsuni	Dec 2020	#326
No one hates them left. So stop.	Demsrule86	Dec 2020	#61
HA.	progressoid	Dec 2020	#114
This right here	melman	Dec 2020	#69
No our left flank attacks us	treestar	Dec 2020	#78
And yet no one has anything bad to say about her until she bashes Democrats and the party.	MrsCoffee	Dec 2020	#100
Um, when she went after Marco Rubio	Bettie	Dec 2020	#112
+1	progressoid	Dec 2020	#115
Who on our side attacked her for going after a Republican?	kcr	Dec 2020	#134
Here is the thread, I'm not going to "call out"	Bettie	Dec 2020	#145
You didn't post a link	kcr	Dec 2020	#147
Ooops. I didn't hit the paste key	Bettie	Dec 2020	#150
All I see is one who objected to swear words	kcr	Dec 2020	#163
She may get more criticism than she deserves. She also gets more praise and credit than she's earned	StarfishSaver	Dec 2020	#165
There was just a whole ass thread where people were..	aidbo	Dec 2020	#178
I agree 100% and excellent comment.	SophieJean	Dec 2020	#126
The only thing that works is get the most votes/representatives. Screaming bloody murder...	brush	Dec 2020	#17
But talk and fighting back effectively motivates the base	DSandra	Dec 2020	#33
The base of the democratic party is the opposite of the base of the Republican Party	JI7	Dec 2020	#45
I'm as Democrat in demographic profile as one can get, and I want Democrats to fight harder	DSandra	Dec 2020	#182
Citation needed...	Callado119	Dec 2020	#215
Good point!	betsuni	Dec 2020	#225
+1 million zillion	treestar	Dec 2020	#98
+1 million	superpatriotman	Dec 2020	#18
"LIAR LIAR LIAR!!!"	StarfishSaver	Dec 2020	#29
Your sarcasm is noted	superpatriotman	Dec 2020	#35
It was a reasonable question	mcar	Dec 2020	#37
You give hope and courage and support	superpatriotman	Dec 2020	#49
Democrats going on tv and calling people liars tells millions of people	StarfishSaver	Dec 2020	#63
Dems bad! Dems bad! Dems bad!	mcar	Dec 2020	#21
Who posted that and where is it? Let me know so I can alert.	Crunchy Frog	Dec 2020	#167
Joe Manchin knows how to fight. He won many times in a very red state.	JI7	Dec 2020	#28
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Thing is, this critique is being shared among "family, here.	cilla4progress	Dec 2020	#32
Katie Porter is Katie Porter	JI7	Dec 2020	#42
This kind of demand is really about satisfying the desire for red meat among the already converted	StarfishSaver	Dec 2020	#44
Are we so helpless that we can't go after THEM? What about what they're doing to Hunter Biden?	mtnsnake	Dec 2020	#48
Yelling at people isn't "going after them." It's just yelling	StarfishSaver	Dec 2020	#53
You keep insisting that this is only about yelling and screaming when it is anything but that.	mtnsnake	Dec 2020	#62
All you've proposed is yelling and screaming	StarfishSaver	Dec 2020	#64
Not true. I proposed taking action. Read the first sentence of my post.	mtnsnake	Dec 2020	#70
Yes, you proposed "taking action" yet somehow keep forgetting to share what that action is	StarfishSaver	Dec 2020	#74
Why is it that you want to see the GOP continue walking all over us with no response?	mtnsnake	Dec 2020	#83
You fail to see the power of words	LiberalLovinLug	Dec 2020	#94
And they have message discipline	Bettie	Dec 2020	#99
+1000	smirkymonkey	Dec 2020	#152
Yes - "Voters take their cue from their leaders"	StarfishSaver	Dec 2020	#103
"Claiming that "words have power" is not a defense to that kind of empty posturing"	LiberalLovinLug	Dec 2020	#128
NO. You're Wrong.. she doesn't "fail" as you say	Cha	Dec 2020	#317
What "action" do you want them to take? That could mean anything.....	George II	Dec 2020	#231
No matter how many more times you nag me about this	mtnsnake	Dec 2020	#232
So, in other words you don't like what Schumer, et. al., are doing but you can't say how....	George II	Dec 2020	#234
whatever	mtnsnake	Dec 2020	#235
whatever....just read it. In other words nothing specific - just what another poster spoke about.	George II	Dec 2020	#239
That's a crock and you know it	mtnsnake	Dec 2020	#240
More strawmen and false dilemma fallacies	ehrnst	Dec 2020	#290
What about Hunter Biden ? Barr said there is nothing there .	JI7	Dec 2020	#55
Good point, JI7.	mtnsnake	Dec 2020	#72
Even Katy Porter doesn't do what you suggest	kcr	Dec 2020	#46
It's Katie, not Katy	mtnsnake	Dec 2020	#51
Pretty sorry attempt on your part	kcr	Dec 2020	#65
"There's nothng about taking action in my OP"?? Really? It's right there in the first sentence	mtnsnake	Dec 2020	#67
REALLY!!!!!!!!!!!!	kcr	Dec 2020	#68
Really	StarfishSaver	Dec 2020	#76
You still haven't explained why you'd rather sit back and do nothing.	mtnsnake	Dec 2020	#79
Interesting choice to respond to the non-yelly "really"	kcr	Dec 2020	#84
Because I don't get baited by bullshit	StarfishSaver	Dec 2020	#85
Again with the same strawman and false dilemma	ehrnst	Dec 2020	#296
Exactly.	StarfishSaver	Dec 2020	#52
Yup, The reason she is good is because she understands the issue and doesn't just repeat talking poi	JI7	Dec 2020	#58
too much investment in "comity" and institutional tradition.	Grasswire2	Dec 2020	#54
At this time in history, our nation needs calm. That is one of the	patricia92243	Dec 2020	#59
It is, apparently, never the time for	Bettie	Dec 2020	#265
+1000	mtnsnake	Dec 2020	#272
I love how some folks are trying to make like my post is only about screaming and yelling	mtnsnake	Dec 2020	#66
What action?	treestar	Dec 2020	#87
Yes, hard to miss. Such a mischaracterization, quite a distraction from	JudyM	Dec 2020	#90
Thank you.	mtnsnake	Dec 2020	#101
Katie, Kamala, AOC, others, are representing the best we can be. eom.	Alex4Martinez	Dec 2020	#71
BS. One more "Democrats don't know how to fight"	stopdiggin	Dec 2020	#73
Excellent response	StarfishSaver	Dec 2020	#77
Thank you. The eternal "Why didn't/don't Democrats stop ____ ?" complaint.	betsuni	Dec 2020	#185
Yup, always the fault of those Democrats	Progressive dog	Dec 2020	#75
This is why I love Katie Porter!	Lucky Luciano	Dec 2020	#81
Enough of this!	treestar	Dec 2020	#82
Some of us,	DENVERPOPS	Dec 2020	#86
You're welcome	mtnsnake	Dec 2020	#113
Rec	Ponietz	Dec 2020	#88
What should they be doing?	cwydro	Dec 2020	#89
We can at least turn the tables on them.	mtnsnake	Dec 2020	#96
In what way should we "turn the tables on them"? Calling them names?	pnwmom	Dec 2020	#104
Nothing will make "conservative" a dirty word faster	kcr	Dec 2020	#107
+1	betsuni	Dec 2020	#192
Thanks for fighting the good fight	Bettie	Dec 2020	#102
You're very welcome	mtnsnake	Dec 2020	#110
Nonsense. Nobody is saying that.	NurseJackie	Dec 2020	#157
Brings back memories.	betsuni	Dec 2020	#195
Said no Democrat ever.	sheshe2	Dec 2020	#171
The Lincoln Project proved this	Loge23	Dec 2020	#105
I am very surprised this OP was allowed to stand.	MontanaMama	Dec 2020	#106
Thank you for trying.	NurseJackie	Dec 2020	#197
I've been screaming the same message for decades.	Paladin	Dec 2020	#108
Excellent post	mtnsnake	Dec 2020	#120
There shouldn't be a FIGHT to begin with.	Brainfodder	Dec 2020	#118
I agree 100%	HootieMcBoob	Dec 2020	#119
Constructive criticism isn't screaming, yelling, bashing or trashing, so thank you for this.	democrank	Dec 2020	#121
We don't have to nod our heads all the time	kcr	Dec 2020	#125
I agree.	democrank	Dec 2020	#137
Lord. Nobody is suggesting that.	NurseJackie	Dec 2020	#168
Well, except only to suggest we give it right back to them	kcr	Dec 2020	#173
Ah, yes! You're certainly right about that!	NurseJackie	Dec 2020	#177
+1	betsuni	Dec 2020	#198
Hear, hear!	smirkymonkey	Dec 2020	#155
How about they explain this new deal that we are getting. We were offered a	vsrazdem	Dec 2020	#122
No. "Nancy Pelosi didn't 'turn down' a great deal and then accept a much worse deal. There wasn't	betsuni	Dec 2020	#200
You're 100% right. It's time for a new generation of leadership who understands:	Maven	Dec 2020	#123
Well said!	Bettie	Dec 2020	#139
I agree with both you and Maven	dflprincess	Dec 2020	#249
For starters	Oscarthegreat	Dec 2020	#127
Yes	mtnsnake	Dec 2020	#133
AMEN!!! FFS yes!	LymphocyteLover	Dec 2020	#253
Democrats have been calling him that for years	StarfishSaver	Dec 2020	#264
Remember when Hillary Clinton called him a puppet of Putin in 2016.	betsuni	Dec 2020	#267
But when Democrats fight back or speak out..	aidbo	Dec 2020	#129
Please define "play the game" and "fight fire with fire".	Caliman73	Dec 2020	#130
In the Top Ten Biden moves	homegirl	Dec 2020	#140
The president doesn't impeach Supreme Court justices	StarfishSaver	Dec 2020	#228
Do you have any	homegirl	Dec 2020	#316
I have serious doubts she would waste her time with such an effort	StarfishSaver	Dec 2020	#318
I should have been	homegirl	Dec 2020	#322
You are right and I'm really tired of it.	Pepsidog	Dec 2020	#142
I agree. Our timidity - and 'taking high road bullshit - is risking our Democracy	samsingh	Dec 2020	#144
Keepin' the powder dry	Bettie	Dec 2020	#146
Like The Dems with Leader Nancy	Cha	Dec 2020	#194
I remember how folks DEMANDED Pelosi impeach Trump and called her a weak coward	StarfishSaver	Dec 2020	#202
+1	betsuni	Dec 2020	#205
Yeah, I remember that, too.. all	Cha	Dec 2020	#213
Sing it!	sheshe2	Dec 2020	#227
This message was self-deleted by its author	betsuni	Dec 2020	#286
+ eternity.	sheshe2	Dec 2020	#223
So you think being a some sort of unified fighting machine	relayerbob	Dec 2020	#156
Your words not mine. nt	mtnsnake	Dec 2020	#161
Yes, playing offense, what a concept	BeyondGeography	Dec 2020	#164
Exactly. Thank you.	mtnsnake	Dec 2020	#170
Thanks for the thread	BeyondGeography	Dec 2020	#172
Excellent point. nt	Maven	Dec 2020	#230
Agree with you 100 percent.	I_UndergroundPanther	Dec 2020	#276
Oh my! Can't believe the blind loyalty crowd hasn't zapped this. Kudos	Laura PourMeADrink	Dec 2020	#174
Please go easy with such divisive and specious bellyaching like this. WE need to GOTV better and	Prof.Higgins	Dec 2020	#175
it's why we need NEW BLOOD	Skittles	Dec 2020	#180
You are getting a lot of flack for your post but you are right!	crimycarny	Dec 2020	#183
Yes, we sure can improve on that	mtnsnake	Dec 2020	#184
What are the problems, again, with our messaging? Please at least begin a list.	ancianita	Dec 2020	#187
Why do you need a list?	crimycarny	Dec 2020	#274
Condensing our message problems is a good start, is why.	ancianita	Dec 2020	#294
With slight modifications	crimycarny	Dec 2020	#319
Okay. Well. See, I thought I was summarizing what you said, so here's an example of	ancianita	Dec 2020	#321
???	crimycarny	Dec 2020	#323
...	ancianita	Dec 2020	#324
House Democrats have done a lot since 2016.	ancianita	Dec 2020	#186
Thank you!	betsuni	Dec 2020	#204
Sure, keep bashing EVERY Democrat except for "a couple of others", i.e. all but 3.....	George II	Dec 2020	#188
"the ones that make the least noise are the ones that are actually accomplishing things"	betsuni	Dec 2020	#206
That's why it would be interesting to know of whom the OP is speaking, so we CAN....	George II	Dec 2020	#209
It's, you know, "them."	betsuni	Dec 2020	#216
Attack on Democrats on a Democratic board!	AmericanCanuck	Dec 2020	#189
trump LOST the FUCKING Election in a	Cha	Dec 2020	#203
Hey Cha hows it going	mtnsnake	Dec 2020	#214
If that's not fighting back, I don't know what is.	betsuni	Dec 2020	#287
Here's why Republicans are good at messaging and communication:	betsuni	Dec 2020	#233
Good post.	mtnsnake	Dec 2020	#236
We outspent them 2:1 in 2020 House contests	BeyondGeography	Dec 2020	#237
Thank you.	Maven	Dec 2020	#238
yes, we need to do a better job getting our message out	LymphocyteLover	Dec 2020	#254
but but but aoc is gonna doom the party.	mopinko	Dec 2020	#246
Newly minted Dem Steve Schmidt knows how to do it	DeminPennswoods	Dec 2020	#262

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