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KPN

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29. Those are the effects, but I think conservatives really
Thu Dec 31, 2020, 02:30 PM
Dec 2020

think everyone should pay their fair share and define that as the same amount regardless of income. They believe everyone has the same opportunity to better themselves financially. They make no distinction between the value of services and infrastructure to poor people vs wealthy people because in their minds they all have equal access to those services and that infrastructure. So they are ideologically opposed to any special benefits (as they see them) for poor and lower income or even middle class people. They also believe that if they don’t need the services, they shouldn’t be required to pay for them; that only those people who need them should pay for them, ie, public education, social security, Medicare/Medicaid. And they believe that all wealth derived from private individual or corporate effort and innovation so those sources of wealth should be freed from requirements that hinder the creation of wealth because wealth is good.

That’s what I think. They actually believe this bullshit which lacks any consideration, regard, appreciation of or empathy for the full myriad of innate inequalities, as well as for the long-term societal consequences which ultimately affect all of us including them. Lacks any ability to see and understand the hypocrisy.

Boiled down it comes to egregiously shallow thinking and consequent lack of empathy; in effect, near total self-centeredness.

Would be fine with me as I continue to work, but don't think it will happen anytime soon. Hoyt Dec 2020 #1
At a minimum the levels ought to be COLA annually Voltaire2 Dec 2020 #2
And reinstate the pre-St Reagan wealth tax! SheltieLover Dec 2020 #3
Many people also don't know that pretty much all interest paid on consumer debt Trailrider1951 Dec 2020 #4
Yep. Especially when it comes to credit card debt stopbush Dec 2020 #5
Trump had home debt go away also. Trump Raise my taxes too !!! 🤬🤬 uponit7771 Dec 2020 #9
Not accurate SCantiGOP Dec 2020 #14
Not accurate relative to context, I can't deduct my mortgage interest if I pay for my car with it uponit7771 Dec 2020 #32
Increasing the Standard Deduction was bait and switch winagawaukee Dec 2020 #34
"Trump Tax bill took away the Personal Exemptions" fleabiscuit Jan 2021 #41
Math! Moral Compass Dec 2020 #31
What is the rationale for taking money away from procon Dec 2020 #6
It keeps the poor competing against each other in a viscious rat race for simple survival, Celerity Dec 2020 #10
Those are the effects, but I think conservatives really KPN Dec 2020 #29
Thanks for this. That the UK and US have low upward rates isn't incidental but part of ancianita Dec 2020 #30
love to see this horrid subpart d to go away as well. AllaN01Bear Dec 2020 #7
We need to be a big tent party to get that, imo. gulliver Dec 2020 #8
isn;t funny the GOP, the party of "taxcuts" have never OFFERED in all these years, to "untax" beachbumbob Dec 2020 #11
Because Republicans are too busy stuffing IOUs into the Trust Fund to pay for Wealthy Elite taxcuts. WyattKansas Dec 2020 #33
It wouldn't help me as I don't get enough on SSDI to pay income tax. Kaleva Dec 2020 #12
Democrats could do well in fighting for that. David__77 Dec 2020 #13
The legislation taxing unemployment benefits and Social Security had broad bipartisan support onenote Dec 2020 #15
I agree they shouldn't tax Unemployment SCantiGOP Dec 2020 #16
Doesn't the Social Security tax hit harder on the wealthy? It might not be the best time to end pnwmom Dec 2020 #17
That's one of the biggest problems we have with tax issues -- people really don't know the facts. Hoyt Dec 2020 #22
If you consider 34,000 a year 'wealthy' then sure. Voltaire2 Dec 2020 #36
GHW Bush actually called Reagan's tax policies "Voodoo Economics" OMGWTF Dec 2020 #18
Yes, it is time blue-wave Dec 2020 #19
K n R ! Thanks for posting! nt JoeOtterbein Dec 2020 #20
I'm down with that! Cozmo Dec 2020 #21
Spot on Traildogbob Dec 2020 #23
So THAT'S when it all started -- thank you for the great historical refresher! ancianita Dec 2020 #24
Time to go back to the 1982 top marginal tax rate of 50 percent. roamer65 Dec 2020 #25
I'll agree 100% with that! n/t RocRizzo55 Dec 2020 #28
Yepper spot on................ turbinetree Dec 2020 #26
I've been waiting a long time BootinUp Dec 2020 #27
I remember that asshole saying wryter2000 Dec 2020 #35
If the Social Security income tax cap of $137,700 were removed, a lot of problems would be solved dlk Dec 2020 #37
the question here quaker bill Dec 2020 #38
I also think if you have been paying your student loans for 20 plus years and have not been able to smirkymonkey Dec 2020 #39
Rotten Ronnie started a lot of the shit we continue to have to slog through. Hermit-The-Prog Dec 2020 #40
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