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llashram

(6,265 posts)
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Sun Jan 3, 2021, 01:34 PM
Jan 2021

Yet it is a travesty that I as an older American citizen of mixed-race parentage residing in Arica during these days have been watchful and wary. have been subjected to in the last four years. The last election and this bold 'coup' attempt by the fascist faction of the New Fascist led Republican Party, 21st century. The last 60 or so days, have been the most politically tumultuous I have ever experienced, at the federal level. The fascists and political opportunists are looking for permanent power. No more opposition. So it will be the blue and the reds this time. Possibly? With a little light purple in the mix. It has been nothing but in our face boldly screaming, "fuck the Constitution". I want money and power. Pandemic be damned! I am hopeful all this goes as did with Hitler's 'beer hall putsch' in 23'. Well? Here we are almost 100 years later and ...

It's Sunday, so I'll say amen to your OP.

Good explanation, thanks. dawg day Jan 2021 #1
Yes and no StarfishSaver Jan 2021 #2
Yes, so it will take forever. dawg day Jan 2021 #3
Yes. StarfishSaver Jan 2021 #5
So, if this entails 12 hours of debate, plus extra time, this won't be getting done on Wednesday, pnwmom Jan 2021 #76
I'm hoping that Pelosi and McConnell can work out a way to consolidate the voting StarfishSaver Jan 2021 #80
I did a back-of-the-envelope calculation BumRushDaShow Jan 2021 #74
This Is Good News COL Mustard Jan 2021 #4
What if Pence & co don't abide by the rules? What then? ancianita Jan 2021 #16
It doesn't matter StarfishSaver Jan 2021 #25
He can be replaced as the counter by the Senate Pro Temp berni_mccoy Jan 2021 #32
By whom? ancianita Jan 2021 #50
Chuck Grassley. scipan Jan 2021 #57
Yes, I meant who does the replacement. Your guess is what I'd have guessed,too. ancianita Jan 2021 #58
It's a good question. The proposer (mcconnell or schumer probably) scipan Jan 2021 #61
I hate not to know the stuff they could pull. I won't know what should happen if they do it. ancianita Jan 2021 #62
Me too. I do know there's a Parlamentarian, who scipan Jan 2021 #64
If Pence doesn't want any part of this, he's unfit as VP, therefore moreso as president. ancianita Jan 2021 #65
He's a coward. scipan Jan 2021 #71
Yep. ancianita Jan 2021 #73
I guess they would be operating under some joint rules scipan Jan 2021 #66
Looks like Chuck ain't messin' around berni_mccoy Jan 2021 #82
Called it! berni_mccoy Jan 2021 #81
Republicans violating the rules? Mr.Bill Jan 2021 #78
And why I had to ask. ancianita Jan 2021 #79
We never thought bdamomma Jan 2021 #52
And safe harbor servermsh Jan 2021 #6
Thanks! Good to read the law on this. ancianita Jan 2021 #19
Legalisms aside, the psychological impact of Biden/Harris being announced the winners will be huge. Girard442 Jan 2021 #7
How cool is that? StarfishSaver Jan 2021 #8
We have been dealing with this crap for two months Chainfire Jan 2021 #9
Exacrly StarfishSaver Jan 2021 #10
+1 MustLoveBeagles Jan 2021 #67
Exactly. All those Senators and Reps can do is delay the proceedings MineralMan Jan 2021 #11
I still find it hard to believe that Pence would be a party to this FakeNoose Jan 2021 #12
Even if Pence wanted to go along with it, he has no power to do it. StarfishSaver Jan 2021 #13
Pence has gone all in because he has nothing else to lose Chainfire Jan 2021 #53
Absolutely, but he knows this is over FakeNoose Jan 2021 #75
Question about Jan 20: Why noon? Why not one minute after midnight? Is it just a norm? Or law? ancianita Jan 2021 #14
Noon on January 20 is set by the Constitution StarfishSaver Jan 2021 #17
Ah. Thanks. ancianita Jan 2021 #21
Historically the new president has allowed a last flight ga_girl Jan 2021 #33
Cool. But the occupant will say that possession is 9/10ths of his power, just to make the show of it ancianita Jan 2021 #38
If recall correctly, Republicans in Georgia and Wisconsin submitted their own slate of electors. Lonestarblue Jan 2021 #15
Only the certified results will be counted StarfishSaver Jan 2021 #20
I think Arizond Republicans senators did so as well. skip fox Jan 2021 #22
3 U.S. Code § 6 - Credentials of electors LiberalFighter Jan 2021 #63
The Problem Gymbo Jan 2021 #18
The Solution BlueIdaho Jan 2021 #29
The solution is Jan 5 in Georgia actually and hopefully. KPN Jan 2021 #36
That is a good start! BlueIdaho Jan 2021 #39
Agreed. KPN Jan 2021 #42
That movement already existed. It has been growing for years. David__77 Jan 2021 #69
Thank you. Other than being embarrassed by these people or the time wasted, I'm not worried. George II Jan 2021 #23
In my opinion, none of this is to keep Trump in office it is to cause violence. LiberalArkie Jan 2021 #24
Constitutional Duty? RicROC Jan 2021 #26
Here's The Oath Senators Take. They Already Do Swear Allegiance To The Constitution. The Question COL Mustard Jan 2021 #43
And Here's The Oath House Members Take, Actually In About Five Minutes From Now. COL Mustard Jan 2021 #44
If I May... DAngelo136 Jan 2021 #27
Nice analogy. StarfishSaver Jan 2021 #30
More worrisome is a "mob veto" JackHughes Jan 2021 #28
You ever been to the Capitol? StarfishSaver Jan 2021 #31
I thought weapons were illegal there, no? gab13by13 Jan 2021 #45
I looked it up, gab13by13 Jan 2021 #48
Again, tRump bdamomma Jan 2021 #54
Mike Pence is basically the Vanna White of Electors Tarc Jan 2021 #34
Great description! StarfishSaver Jan 2021 #35
Ha..that's the best description yet!! Thekaspervote Jan 2021 #37
This is all about stage craft. Ultimately, what they KPN Jan 2021 #40
This is great information, but unfortunately Joe won't hit 270 until Vermont's result are read Fiendish Thingy Jan 2021 #41
All the electorial slates are read and recorded first before they are allowd to object. It's IsItJustMe Jan 2021 #46
Not from the clips I've seen of Gore in 2001 and Biden in 2017 Fiendish Thingy Jan 2021 #49
I'm not sure about that StarfishSaver Jan 2021 #51
Will Trump insist that he or his supporters be present as the votes are counted? LastLiberal in PalmSprings Jan 2021 #47
The House and Senate determine their own rules, including who can be present in the chamber StarfishSaver Jan 2021 #56
Thank you for the summary. LastLiberal in PalmSprings Jan 2021 #59
There is absolutely no way these raggedy-assed goons can storm the Capitol StarfishSaver Jan 2021 #60
this llashram Jan 2021 #55
McConnell's Against It, Astonishingly Enough Skeptical Thomas Jan 2021 #68
We will see. David__77 Jan 2021 #70
Pence can say whatever he wants and Republicans can claim whatever they StarfishSaver Jan 2021 #72
This is a stunt that will not work Gothmog Jan 2021 #77
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