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IronLionZion

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32. They claimed they would make Germany great again

Mon Jan 25, 2021, 12:21 PM

Jan 2021

Hitler appealed to a certain type of person during depression, folks who wanted to feel powerful and blame elitists and foreigners or perceived foreigners (Jews) for their problems. He claimed the world was picking on Germany and they won't be bullied any more. Hitler and the Nazis didn't think of themselves as the oppressors. Main Kampf was all about how he was the real victim in all this.

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Twas a time when people wondered how an advanced nation like Germany allowed Hitler to become ruler [View all] Tom Rinaldo Jan 2021 OP

I used to wonder that too, I don't any longer. dem4decades Jan 2021 #1

Indeed. Let no one ever say it can't happen here. unblock Jan 2021 #2

Great post - very well said. THANK YOU! n/t MFGsunny Jan 2021 #3

I've never wondered Johnny2X2X Jan 2021 #4

Yep, I used to wonder exactly the same thing, and now we see how gullible and delusional people RKP5637 Jan 2021 #5

The QAnon conspiracy theoies that tens of millions of Americans have swallowed whole Tom Rinaldo Jan 2021 #11

We are in a real life history lesson of monumental proportions. Irish_Dem Jan 2021 #6

Has it really been that short of a period? wnylib Jan 2021 #52

I agree it was decades in the making, but when Trump came into office it was on steroids. Irish_Dem Jan 2021 #54

Yes, Trump was open about things that wnylib Jan 2021 #64

this llashram Jan 2021 #7

Yeah, it's a kick in the pants. BUT the HOPE is in a DEMOCRACY we fight like hell to keep them OUT. TigressDem Jan 2021 #8

Remember that his first wife used to say he had two books on his night table on Hitler... Frustratedlady Jan 2021 #9

I had read that once too, and have thought about it often ... in may ways he was RKP5637 Jan 2021 #31

The Obama Economy limited the damage Shermann Jan 2021 #10

I recall reading about how incredibly bad the German economy was. luvtheGWN Jan 2021 #24

The American analog to Weimar Germany's psychological uncertainty misanthrope Jan 2021 #57

Yes. I always felt that the Tea Party luvtheGWN Jan 2021 #65

I saw punditry opine the racial motivations in the Tea Party misanthrope Jan 2021 #68

That was something I always thought that it couldn't happen here. I thought it was part doc03 Jan 2021 #12

Hawley's national aspirations are over. Turin_C3PO Jan 2021 #18

Tom Cotton is now the one to look out for. GoneOffShore Jan 2021 #19

He's pretty boring though. Turin_C3PO Jan 2021 #20

There is that, but I still worry. The derplorables may want boring for a bit. GoneOffShore Jan 2021 #28

Ron DeSantis. A HERETIC I AM Jan 2021 #33

Totally agree with that. GoneOffShore Jan 2021 #46

Yes, Turin_C3PO Jan 2021 #49

+1 good call appalachiablue Jan 2021 #90

Excellent. The playbook is always the same, from Mussolini to Orban and Mike 03 Jan 2021 #13

Germany's history should point the way to solving our problem nuxvomica Jan 2021 #14

Great points Tom Rinaldo Jan 2021 #21

So in your opinion misanthrope Jan 2021 #67

Sadly, I know a lot less about Reconstruction than I should Tom Rinaldo Jan 2021 #70

Yeah, that would be the closest analog to what you suggest for a domestic Marshall Plan misanthrope Jan 2021 #72

Grant was an amazing man. mountain grammy Jan 2021 #89

Thanks so much. I will check it out n/t Tom Rinaldo Jan 2021 #94

Who is the outside agency that will do that for us? misanthrope Jan 2021 #58

Reconstruction is basically the Biden agenda nuxvomica Jan 2021 #63

+1, This is OP worthy uponit7771 Jan 2021 #73

Economics is known as political economy, for the most part, in Europe, for a reason bucolic_frolic Jan 2021 #15

There can be no unity with lying, murderous fascists. Insurrection must have consequences. dalton99a Jan 2021 #16

Apathy and not wanting to get involved. BarbD Jan 2021 #17

Cultural chasms misanthrope Jan 2021 #59

Yes, I wondered too. mountain grammy Jan 2021 #22

I always knew it could happen here, people are people, once just didn't think it would. Hortensis Jan 2021 #23

Hadn't seen that quote from Frum before. Very sobering Tom Rinaldo Jan 2021 #30

Sure. It's always been the mainstream's job to contain extremists Hortensis Jan 2021 #41

This virus creates a lot of chaos if you want to push a fascist takeover. BrightKnight Jan 2021 #25

Excellent Short Opinion Escurumbele Jan 2021 #26

Propaganda works dlk Jan 2021 #27

If the right isn't severely punished for their insurrection, the next one by them will win. lark Jan 2021 #29

I feel strongly Turin_C3PO Jan 2021 #34

I hope you are right about both parts and that our side stays very engaged. lark Jan 2021 #37

This message was self-deleted by its author Turin_C3PO Jan 2021 #35

+1, they only needed one of the Molitov Cocktails to light up the whole capital and prevent the ... uponit7771 Jan 2021 #75

They claimed they would make Germany great again IronLionZion Jan 2021 #32

I have seen newspaper publishers use the same technique misanthrope Jan 2021 #60

Yep, same here. Guess we got a in real time history lesson in authoritarianism. Jetheels Jan 2021 #36

Spot on! peggysue2 Jan 2021 #38

Exactly. Turin_C3PO Jan 2021 #44

"Learning From the Germans" GREAT book on this topic ... billwtea Jan 2021 #39

The Filibuster is a weapon of authoritarians. Causes Public distrust of Democracy Tommymac Jan 2021 #40

my mother always told me to never think it couldn't happen here. yellowdogintexas Jan 2021 #42

THIS !!!! ☝🏾☝🏾☝🏾, FAUX News like information is 100% dangerous and should be fact checked! People uponit7771 Jan 2021 #43

Absolutely.. msfiddlestix Jan 2021 #45

I am watching again after many years Ken Burns The Civil War and it becomes clear that the former Pepsidog Jan 2021 #47

So you favor succession which the Civil War was fought to prevent? former9thward Jan 2021 #78

No I didn't mean secession. I am being petty and mean financial support. Blue states carrying red Pepsidog Jan 2021 #81

The combination of digital media and universal suffrage probably dooms democracy Klaralven Jan 2021 #48

I think I get your point, but ultimately I reject it Tom Rinaldo Jan 2021 #51

Then that's why there should be a Fact Check Group or something close, the media must police them uponit7771 Jan 2021 #76

My thoughts on this tiredtoo Jan 2021 #50

The Democrats Turin_C3PO Jan 2021 #74

I am going to have to politely disagree with you. NT tiredtoo Jan 2021 #82

In the 60's "How could this happen?" In 2021 "We were robbed!" PurgedVoter Jan 2021 #53

And they brandish a copy of the constitution while they trample upon the real one Tom Rinaldo Jan 2021 #55

K&R. Nt raccoon Jan 2021 #56

Silence was a big factor. Behind the Aegis Jan 2021 #61

You are overselling the importance of economic anxiety. Act_of_Reparation Jan 2021 #62

Actually I tried to indirectly make that point Tom Rinaldo Jan 2021 #71

+1, and it wasn't the whole nation either. Hitler and the NAZI party had only 38% support at its ... uponit7771 Jan 2021 #77

The NSDAP was only able to take power... Act_of_Reparation Jan 2021 #92

+1, so much this too uponit7771 Jan 2021 #95

The West allowed Germany to become a place where someone like Hitler could make it to the top DFW Jan 2021 #66

"Germany had a logical explanation as to why 1933 happened." 👈🏾 THIS!!! I dispute that Germany was uponit7771 Jan 2021 #84

How was Hitler allowed to become ruler? Well, ... JustABozoOnThisBus Jan 2021 #69

It is wrong to ascribe Meowmee Jan 2021 #79

Many nations have long histories of deeply embedded hatreds Tom Rinaldo Jan 2021 #83

It was not just glowing embers in Germany and Eastern Europe and elsewhere Meowmee Jan 2021 #91

Both tragic and frightening, but it's true. BobTheSubgenius Jan 2021 #80

I used to wonder how groups like Al Qaeda and the Taliban got started. Initech Jan 2021 #85

"Good times" are a matter of definiton NoGOPZone Jan 2021 #86

Yes and had he who shall not be named actually been smarter... jimlup Jan 2021 #87

In the 1930's America wasn't such a "bastion against fascism"... AntiFascist Jan 2021 #88

The Weimar Republic was a democracy in its infancy... Wounded Bear Jan 2021 #93