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Bobstandard

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37. Impeachment is not a trial as you know it, esquire..,
Tue Feb 16, 2021, 12:02 AM
Feb 2021

Today’s impeachment trials are, as much as anything, public spectacles. One competes for hearts and minds, emphasis on the former. The rules of procedure don’t apply outside the “courtroom”, and the spectacle in the chambers was anything but a courtroom. Instead it was a media space with two sides battling for the sympathies of the viewers-and there weren’t that many of them. In a sense it was a fight for the news bites, the news cycle on various outlets. The story to be told in two years, in four years.

On the one side, the inevitable conclusion of Republicans letting him off was a win for Trump. One way to make the proceedings a loss for Trump was to drag them out. To highlight his every violence against the constitution, and to highlight his incredible, mean incompetence. A longer trial with witnesses possibly emerging from the woodwork would have done that

And let’s not forget that Democrats had control of the process. They could have ended it whenever they chose. If proceedings threatened to retard Biden’s agenda, they could have bailed. Until then they’d have laid bare Trumps malfeasance.

Chance abrogated. Sigh.

Still, there is the lesson of Benghazi. Let’s keep those Trump hearings coming.

I think it's because they wanted them so badly last time. jimfields33 Feb 2021 #1
What they wanted last time has no bearing on how this matter should be handled StarfishSaver Feb 2021 #3
Perhaps, but the Managers did an amazing job. There is no excuse for criticizing. TomSlick Feb 2021 #6
I totally agree. jimfields33 Feb 2021 #9
+1000 Thekaspervote Feb 2021 #19
This msfiddlestix Feb 2021 #57
I am right there with you! StarfishSaver Feb 2021 #2
I don't think you've followed the story. servermsh Feb 2021 #4
Not only did I follow the story, I watched the hearings. TomSlick Feb 2021 #11
AMEN! soldierant Feb 2021 #49
We followed the story. We just aren't spininng it the way you insist on doing StarfishSaver Feb 2021 #12
I'll never understand why people don't get the difference between a "recess" and a "vacation"... George II Feb 2021 #17
One reason is that the press keeps lying about it StarfishSaver Feb 2021 #18
Constituent meetings held? Or not Bobstandard Feb 2021 #30
The difference is elementary... NurseJackie Feb 2021 #62
I would say that I love ya. sheshe2 Feb 2021 #20
... StarfishSaver Feb 2021 #21
I agree with your analysls Gothmog Feb 2021 #56
Here's the actual story. Better to be informed Budi Feb 2021 #24
I followed the hearings/trial very closely and your analysis is wrong Gothmog Feb 2021 #55
The stupidest thing to me is, Mitch couldn't have been clearer spooky3 Feb 2021 #5
The Managers did a great job, I am now screaming at the TV news to shut up! katmondoo Feb 2021 #7
Thank you Budi Feb 2021 #8
The Subpoenas WHITT Feb 2021 #10
This is where we would be tonight IMO if we had pushed it. onecaliberal Feb 2021 #14
None from me. Only gratitude. Nt BootinUp Feb 2021 #13
If they showed a video of Trump directing their every move through a bullhorn, world wide wally Feb 2021 #15
Heavens to Betsy! How about... PutGramaOnThePhone Feb 2021 #16
Welcome to DU. TomSlick Feb 2021 #22
Thank you... PutGramaOnThePhone Feb 2021 #39
No worries. Practicing law causes you to grow a thick skin. TomSlick Feb 2021 #42
I need to keep... PutGramaOnThePhone Feb 2021 #48
...and on the thick skin... PutGramaOnThePhone Feb 2021 #50
If you practice law you become accustomed to being called everything but a child of God. TomSlick Feb 2021 #66
Probably as bad for doctors treestar Feb 2021 #68
+1 Tommymac Feb 2021 #25
Your opinion is people shouldn't discuss politics on a political discussion board because you Autumn Feb 2021 #23
I have no objection to discussing politics. TomSlick Feb 2021 #28
Bazinga! Good job. The funny thing is you weren't complaining about politics.... George II Feb 2021 #32
Geeze Louise George PutGramaOnThePhone Feb 2021 #58
Fortunately, some of us here appreciate hearing from those who ShazzieB Feb 2021 #34
Yes, for sure... PutGramaOnThePhone Feb 2021 #43
Impeachment is not a trial as you know it, esquire.., Bobstandard Feb 2021 #37
Yes! 😀 PutGramaOnThePhone Feb 2021 #44
I love that quote! treestar Feb 2021 #69
The people Mr. Slick was addressing are those second guessing our Democrats' strategy.... George II Feb 2021 #31
Nothing wrong with second guessing any politician. If one want to put down other peoples Autumn Feb 2021 #40
Spot on! PutGramaOnThePhone Feb 2021 #47
The drama over Democrats being "picked on" is ridiculous. People are allowed to discuss Autumn Feb 2021 #67
This message was self-deleted by its author Gothmog Feb 2021 #59
A number of the attorneys on this board have expressed their opinion Gothmog Feb 2021 #60
You're correct, "no one complained about politics on a political discussion board".... George II Feb 2021 #63
"Quoting you again" --- Haaaa! NurseJackie Feb 2021 #65
people can't wait to diss stillcool Feb 2021 #26
People mistook the impeachment trial as a legal proceding Steelrolled Feb 2021 #27
I suspect the press is giddy at dealing with getting answers. cachukis Feb 2021 #29
+1000! Nitpicking bellyaches by us against brilliant House Mgrs. gives Chuck Todd and Prof.Higgins Feb 2021 #33
Does discussion... PutGramaOnThePhone Feb 2021 #51
Even with witnesses the American flying rabbit Feb 2021 #35
I concur. TomSlick Feb 2021 #36
The steady drip of bad news for Trump.. Bobstandard Feb 2021 #38
The testimony would have been taken by deposition and the transcript StarfishSaver Feb 2021 #45
republican party is now a communist party -period !!! monkeyman1 Feb 2021 #41
I want daily televised hearings on the insurrection and everything going back to 1946. Hermit-The-Prog Feb 2021 #46
😀😀😀😀 PutGramaOnThePhone Feb 2021 #52
Good call. BobTheSubgenius Feb 2021 #53
No, totally. It made total sense. To not call any witnesses. Yeah. coti Feb 2021 #54
Hahahahahahahaha, nice PutGramaOnThePhone Feb 2021 #61
Lol, you had had enough? Then take a break! Nt USALiberal Feb 2021 #64
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