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crickets

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35. Oh, absolutely agreed.
Mon Mar 1, 2021, 01:28 AM
Mar 2021

Military bases, NASA, the most recent electrical grid catastrophe (illustrating that TX's go-it-alone attitude is not such a hot idea,) the state's need for federal aid money to recover from said catastrophe, as well as the fact that there's no legal way for any state to secede.

https://www.texastribune.org/2021/01/29/texas-secession/

“The legality of seceding is problematic,” Eric McDaniel, associate professor of government at the University of Texas at Austin, told The Texas Tribune in 2016. “The Civil War played a very big role in establishing the power of the federal government and cementing that the federal government has the final say in these issues.” [snip]

Yet even before Texas formally rejoined the nation, the U.S. Supreme Court declared that secession was not legal, and thus, even during the rebellion, Texas continued to be a state. In the 1869 case Texas v. White, the court held that individual states could not unilaterally secede from the Union and that the acts of the insurgent Texas Legislature — even if ratified by a majority of Texans — were “absolutely null.”

If there were any doubt remaining after that, late Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia set it to rest more than a century later with his response to a letter from a screenwriter in 2006 asking if there is a legal basis for secession.

“The answer is clear,” Scalia wrote. “If there was any constitutional issue resolved by the Civil War, it is that there is no right to secede. (Hence, in the Pledge of Allegiance, ‘one Nation, indivisible.’)”


Plus a bunch of good reasons listed in other posts. Texas isn't going anywhere.

Texas secession? [View all] MASW Feb 2021 OP
Mexico called dweller Feb 2021 #1
The Aztec and Mayans called ... marble falls Feb 2021 #2
... roamer65 Mar 2021 #23
Let them go. Polly Hennessey Feb 2021 #3
Nah. We don't need a foreign puppet state on our border... JHB Feb 2021 #11
The TX GOP is catering to a crank minority... JHB Feb 2021 #4
Oh, absolutely agreed. crickets Mar 2021 #35
This message was self-deleted by its author TxGuitar Feb 2021 #5
There are a lot of good Democrats in Texas Glorfindel Feb 2021 #6
They could move to the USA. The only thing Oldem Mar 2021 #19
I would rather turn Texas Blue and bring it into the 21st century. Beto would be a good start. 42bambi Feb 2021 #7
Absolutely Deuxcents Mar 2021 #33
If you missed it...QAnon Conspiracies And Neo-Confederate Beliefs Behind Texit Movement Shell_Seas Feb 2021 #8
This will never happen TxGuitar Feb 2021 #9
They want too secede before we turn it blue. tinrobot Feb 2021 #10
It's not gonna happen...sorry! LeftInTX Feb 2021 #12
All My Secesses Are From Texas Blue Owl Feb 2021 #13
.....and that's why you reside in Tennessee Stallion Mar 2021 #22
Worst idea since...1861 Cirque du So-What Feb 2021 #14
Not this shit again. harumph Feb 2021 #15
Thanks for the sanity SCantiGOP Mar 2021 #25
Can someone tell me why the Alamo and its story are held in awe? Sibelius Fan Feb 2021 #16
Because John Wayne died there packman Mar 2021 #24
Hahaha! EndlessWire Feb 2021 #17
Here's what I would tell secessionists: Initech Mar 2021 #18
No Social Security, No Medicare MiniMe Mar 2021 #21
No money for Medicaid, education, etc. Ilsa Mar 2021 #27
Bring Back the Southwest Conference!!!!! Stallion Mar 2021 #30
Besides losing the 2nd most important state, Texas secession would create ANOTHER 3rd world neighbor sandensea Mar 2021 #20
Houston, Austin, and San Antonio would then secede from Texas. Goodheart Mar 2021 #26
Dallas and El Paso too. TexasTowelie Mar 2021 #36
I'm getting pretty sick of this nonsense blogslut Mar 2021 #28
Biden should close our biggest military base there now Captain Zero Mar 2021 #29
Big Money alone in Texas will never let this happen. Then throw in the citizens who oppose it. nt Progressive Jones Mar 2021 #31
for Texas, it is wishful thinking.... quickesst Mar 2021 #32
I'd be in favor of it. Crunchy Frog Mar 2021 #34
Putin's stooges struggle4progress Mar 2021 #37
Your mention of Cruz made me realize that he and Cornyn would instantly be out work if TX seceded. tanyev Mar 2021 #38
Yes , it's just about distracting from real issues where they are failures JI7 Mar 2021 #40
How do they secede when 46 percent of the state voted for Biden JI7 Mar 2021 #39
It will never happen, but I'd like to see Texas vote on the issue. nt Roisin Ni Fiachra Mar 2021 #41
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