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Mike 03

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3. Yes, this has been on my mind the past few days.

Thu Mar 4, 2021, 02:02 PM

Mar 2021

I usually defend Senator Sinema but this has been bothering me more and more.

This morning I was trying to remember what Ezra Klein writes towards the end of his book Why We're Polarized about the filibuster. He's approaching our predicament very realistically, looking at it almost from the perspective of Game Theory, and I want to refresh my memory about what he said about this and send it to Sinema as part of an overall argument.

This feels like an important moment strategically, where if we don't do something dramatic history will look back on this time and say, "Democracy was lost right here" and it comes down to these two people. Hitler's rise to Chancellor was basically made possible by two people playing political Russian Roulette with Germany's future.

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Senator Sinema and the Filibuster [View all] JustAnotherGen Mar 2021 OP

Manchin is a submarine screendoor... Moostache Mar 2021 #1

We have to find a workaround. Send giant infrastructure projects to WV, do oppo research, whatever lagomorph777 Mar 2021 #2

Without manchin, we pass zero laws, confirm no nominations, and get faux senate investigations unblock Mar 2021 #4

I agree - but his opposition JustAnotherGen Mar 2021 #7

No doubt we'd be better off with a more comfortable majority unblock Mar 2021 #10

With the gerrymandering JustAnotherGen Mar 2021 #13

He actually has cast some tough votes dsc Mar 2021 #5

I don't think he's ever been the deciding vote for Republicans or against Democrats AZSkiffyGeek Mar 2021 #6

That's my recollection, yes. Laelth Mar 2021 #11

I think it's the same situation AZSkiffyGeek Mar 2021 #16

I hope that you are right. Laelth Mar 2021 #17

Very true JustAnotherGen Mar 2021 #22

Yes, this has been on my mind the past few days. Mike 03 Mar 2021 #3

This JustAnotherGen Mar 2021 #8

Don't they need a big, long bridge to nowhere in AZ? Laelth Mar 2021 #9

Manchin has already said he's not running again. Calista241 Mar 2021 #12

I wonder then JustAnotherGen Mar 2021 #14

He's basically said that he doesn't want to be remembered as the person Calista241 Mar 2021 #25

Good points - we just need TWO things JustAnotherGen Mar 2021 #27

Manchin and Sinema (and their supporters) need to realize one thing. Efilroft Sul Mar 2021 #15

You've got to dance with them what brung ya. Laelth Mar 2021 #19

Thank you JustAnotherGen Mar 2021 #21

You're welcome. Efilroft Sul Mar 2021 #23

Exactly JustAnotherGen Mar 2021 #24

Republicans are too deep into authoritarianism. Efilroft Sul Mar 2021 #26

Manchin voted to impeach Trump Twice . He isn't doing any if this JI7 Mar 2021 #18

That's a good point JustAnotherGen Mar 2021 #20