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NurseJackie

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33. "It violates the rules of reconciliation, and everyone knows it."

Fri Mar 5, 2021, 02:59 PM

Mar 2021

It violates the rules of reconciliation, and everyone knows it.

I just don't understand why a stand-alone bill can't be introduced, lobbied for, and voted upon. Who knows, maybe those 8 Democrats (CAPITAL "D"!) would vote for it.

BTW, it was only seven Democrats and the Independent from Maine who voted against including it in the bill. And they didn't vote against the $15 minimum wage, that wasn't nature of the vote, they rightfully voted for the integrity of Senate rules.

I'm just quoting this post so that I can add it to my DU Journal.

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C-Span sometimes has incorrect subtitles, but it looks like the $15 min wage was voted down 42-58. [View all] George II Mar 2021 OP

Wonder what the net worth of those 58 is n/t leftstreet Mar 2021 #1

A hell of a fucking lot more than anyone making $15 an hour. nt Autumn Mar 2021 #2

Or $2.13 an hour MoonlitKnight Mar 2021 #10

Is that 58-42 against raising the minimum wage, or 58-42 failing to limit debate? gratuitous Mar 2021 #3

Good question. lagomorph777 Mar 2021 #6

42-58 to allow it in the bill, I just added a screen shot of C-Span's subtitle. I always suspected.. George II Mar 2021 #7

So two more votes (not sayin' whose) gratuitous Mar 2021 #8

No, 18 more votes. 42 voted Yes, 58 voted No. George II Mar 2021 #9

Maths is fundamental. NurseJackie Mar 2021 #12

Thanks for the screenshot - makes it clear that the list of Conservadems needs to be expanded. lagomorph777 Mar 2021 #11

Or what? NurseJackie Mar 2021 #13

Or we hand hand control of the country to the GQP permanently. lagomorph777 Mar 2021 #14

That'll show 'em mcar Mar 2021 #15

I'll never understand why groups like "Our Revolution" and "Justice Democrats"... NurseJackie Mar 2021 #17

They should be attacking Republicans mcar Mar 2021 #19

Or promoting the "Dems don't care about you" LIE NurseJackie Mar 2021 #24

Some do seem more intent on tearing down the Democratic party mcar Mar 2021 #27

It wouldn't be our choice - it would be the unfortunate consequence of dereliction of duty. lagomorph777 Mar 2021 #31

They're not opposed to the $15 minimum wage, they're opposed to the gimmick of including it.... George II Mar 2021 #23

They always knew there is no way it would pass as a standalone jcgoldie Mar 2021 #4

It was expect - but it gets them on the record opposing - there will also be a lot Lucinda Mar 2021 #5

So let me get this straight. jorgevlorgan Mar 2021 #16

That's a ridiculous interpretation. It's insulting. NurseJackie Mar 2021 #18

Explain jorgevlorgan Mar 2021 #21

No explanation is needed. NurseJackie Mar 2021 #32

No, you don't have it straight mcar Mar 2021 #20

Oh? jorgevlorgan Mar 2021 #22

See my post #23. George II Mar 2021 #25

I think that's a cop out. jorgevlorgan Mar 2021 #26

It's not a cop out - if it's included outside of the normal rules and procedures of the Senate.... George II Mar 2021 #28

If we have 50 democratic votes who support it, it will pass if it is on the bill jorgevlorgan Mar 2021 #29

This has been debated for a week or so, that amendment does not belong in the reconciliation bill... George II Mar 2021 #30

"It violates the rules of reconciliation, and everyone knows it." NurseJackie Mar 2021 #33

The CBO already concluded it has more budgetary relevance than the gop tax bill jorgevlorgan Mar 2021 #34

She was appointed Parliamentarian in 2012, when the Democrats held a 51-47 majority with.... George II Mar 2021 #36

I stand corrected jorgevlorgan Mar 2021 #38

.... George II Mar 2021 #46

Also I just hope we can somehow get rid of the fillibuster to see how many of the eight would jorgevlorgan Mar 2021 #35

There's only one way to find out, do the work and introduce/lobby for that standalone bill. George II Mar 2021 #37

Absolutely agreed. jorgevlorgan Mar 2021 #39

+1 leftstreet Mar 2021 #41

It's a ridiculous description. It ignores facts. NurseJackie Mar 2021 #42

No, it's succinct n/t leftstreet Mar 2021 #44

Succinct is not a synonym for "correct." It's succinct all right... and WRONG! NurseJackie Mar 2021 #47

agreed with jorgevlorgan. no explanation needed for my agreement nt msongs Mar 2021 #45

Here are Democratic Senators who voted against the amendment onenote Mar 2021 #40

They did the right thing. NurseJackie Mar 2021 #43